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Apple's billion dollar investment directed at allowing men into women's bathrooms

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QuietContraryMary · 14/12/2018 08:13

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" Big businesses helped kill the Texas bathroom bill two years ago, targeting it as discriminatory and unnecessary.

They said the legislation, which would have required Texans to use the restrooms that match their sex at birth, would have hampered efforts to woo new companies to the state and turned off convention planners and sports leagues looking at venues for events.

Now, some companies are doubling down on that commitment, citing diversity and inclusivity as factors in their decisions. Apple made this clear Thursday, when it announced a $1 billion investment in the capital city.

The bathroom bill, or something like it, may be back when state lawmakers meet in 2019. But opponents of these restroom regulations say the business community will again give them the ammunition they need to shoot down such divisive legislation.

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Bubonicpanic · 15/12/2018 00:08

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FamousPJ · 15/12/2018 00:08

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HestiaParthenos · 15/12/2018 00:07

They're oppressing you by refusing to grant you a mortgage on that castle you always had your eye on, the bigoted gits.

How did you know I have my eye on a castle? Finally someone understands me! I feel so validated!

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 15/12/2018 00:07

when I'm presented with the "liberal woman, conservative man" narrative in future, I'll be sure to direct them to mumsnet

Sweetheart you are so 2018 Smile

Bubonicpanic · 15/12/2018 00:05

Liberal ain't no universal standard of perfect human behaviour.

It's not referred to as woolly minded liberalism for nothing.

AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:01

Not even my bank respects my identity? My creditworthiness seems to be that of a poor person, I don't identify with that at all.

They're oppressing you by refusing to grant you a mortgage on that castle you always had your eye on, the bigoted gits.

R0wantrees · 15/12/2018 00:01

Then of course there's Stefonknee Wolscht

6 year old transgirl

Apple's billion dollar investment directed at allowing men into women's bathrooms
Womantheonlykind · 15/12/2018 00:01

It's such hogwash isn't it.

Like if I go Hey Bowl, henceforth I am you, give me your house keys.

I know I am Bowl because I feel like Bowl and when I get Bowl's keys I will live as Bowl and that will make me Bowl ad infinitum...

To which Bowl should rightfully say...

AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:00

"Why will this arrogant man not listen to me?" may indeed be the epitome of what it means to feel like a woman.

I advise not giving a shit.

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HestiaParthenos · 14/12/2018 23:59

I think I've discovered what it is to 'feel like a woman' though... I'm currently feeling angry, frustrated and immensely fucked off. Most women - you know, us cunty ones who are adult female humans - would feel that after the reams of shit that have been spouted on here.

I think you might be on to something there. That's exactly how I used to feel when I still read the nonsense the mighty male mansplained to us.

Bubonicpanic · 14/12/2018 23:58

And of course the male desire of which our informant speaks includes cross dressing fetishists. There desire to be seen as a woman whilst engaging in their paraphilliac behaviour is a legal requirement? With no impact on females ever? Free for all at all times? No rules?

Bowlofbabelfish · 14/12/2018 23:57

Veggie or not? I’m told good suet is key but personally I’m ok without.,..

HestiaParthenos · 14/12/2018 23:57

I desire to be acknowledged as rich person.

Why doesn't that make me rich?

Not even my bank respects my identity? My creditworthiness seems to be that of a poor person, I don't identify with that at all.

SanFranBear · 14/12/2018 23:57

Fucking hell - this thread has got my blood pressure up and I was just heading for bed.

I think I've discovered what it is to 'feel like a woman' though... I'm currently feeling angry, frustrated and immensely fucked off. Most women - you know, us cunty ones who are adult female humans - would feel that after the reams of shit that have been spouted on here.

Unless of course oh mighty man, you can explain better to me about what it is to feel like a woman...

And as a rape survivor, it is particularly crass to suggest it is purely the sight of a penis which has got us all of a flutter and so 'lacking in compassion'... It's what sexual predators DO with them which gives us serious concern. Do you have any idea what it's like to feel utterly powerless when someone stronger than you completely violates you in the worst way possible... do you? You try and fight back, you say no but it carries on regardless... you try and get away but their larger physique makes it impossible. Do you know what it's like to walk away from that, make peace with that and begin to trust again. Can you for even one second get it into your head that most women don't want to share their spaces with men for a multitude of reasons... sexual assault is not something that happens and you move on, it's not just bad sex or incompatibility, it fucking stays with you. Do you get it yet?

Of course you don't but I'm just being silly, dear, and alarmist, dear, and making shit up, dear. Could you be any more patronising? Just fuck off - I will fight to protect women and girls and I'm done being meek.

AngryAttackKittens · 14/12/2018 23:56

Between that and the shop where the heating went out and they have employees sitting around shivering in fleeces because apparently replacing a part in the heating system is beyond their ability I'm side eyeing Tesco's so hard right now.

Womantheonlykind · 14/12/2018 23:56

whatthewhatnow? CHILLI?

Bowlofbabelfish · 14/12/2018 23:55

ICING on mince pies?

What the what now?

ClosdesMouches · 14/12/2018 23:55

Icing and puff pastry have no place anywhere near a mince pie. Shortcrust all the way.

And what's the deal with these chilli chocolate mince pies? Xmas Confused

AngryAttackKittens · 14/12/2018 23:55

Not of me they're not! I have a deep and abiding desire not to have any icing on my mince pies.

Womantheonlykind · 14/12/2018 23:54

Evidence!

Bowlofbabelfish · 14/12/2018 23:54

How does one live as a woman? how do women live? The only way my life differs from my husbands is the biological stuff. I gestated our children, for example. When you ask someone what living as a woman means, it’s a list of stereotypes. Dress, behaviour. But none of that is inherent to women, and you can’t change sex to do the biological stuff. So living as a woman? Meaningless.

So can humans change sex? Am I about to get someone, finally, who will say yes? This is momentous! How? How does it work? No waffle about breasts and hormones. I mean sex. How does a human change sex?

Womantheonlykind · 14/12/2018 23:54

But tesco do it and they are inclusive

AngryAttackKittens · 14/12/2018 23:53

Icing? On mince pies? Sorry mate but that's just not on.

Womantheonlykind · 14/12/2018 23:52

If I do shortcrust and put some nice pretty icing on it will it pass for puff pastry?