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Apple's billion dollar investment directed at allowing men into women's bathrooms

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QuietContraryMary · 14/12/2018 08:13

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" Big businesses helped kill the Texas bathroom bill two years ago, targeting it as discriminatory and unnecessary.

They said the legislation, which would have required Texans to use the restrooms that match their sex at birth, would have hampered efforts to woo new companies to the state and turned off convention planners and sports leagues looking at venues for events.

Now, some companies are doubling down on that commitment, citing diversity and inclusivity as factors in their decisions. Apple made this clear Thursday, when it announced a $1 billion investment in the capital city.

The bathroom bill, or something like it, may be back when state lawmakers meet in 2019. But opponents of these restroom regulations say the business community will again give them the ammunition they need to shoot down such divisive legislation.

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Bowlofbabelfish · 15/12/2018 00:44

You can all identify as me. Grin we will need a secret handshake and I’m not having any of this iced mince pie heresy though

Bowlofbabelfish · 15/12/2018 00:42

I’m sure I do know men who’ve paid for sex. The figure of 10 is one I’ve seen reported before so I can believe that. 20% wouldnt shock me, but I think the 10% is the widely accepted one.
That wasn't quite what I asked though. I mean you acknowledge women are not so keen and I wonder if you have a theory as to why?

Before you say looks or money, I say hand on heart that a man’s looks have never been an issue for me, and having spent many years as a skint student, money wasn’t much of an issue either. I don’t doubt there are a minority of both sexes who go purely on looks but for the average woman, it’s a nice extra, not a main factor.

Do you think they way you treat/act around/think about women is the reason? A man who pays to make a woman have sex with him does not respect women.

Just a thought. The baby is asleep so I will turn in too.

HomeStar · 15/12/2018 00:42

Has this thread disappeared from the FWR chat section? I just went and looked for it and it wasn't on the first few pages, but I was still able to find it and post in it because I had it open in another tab.

Why would they disappear it?

AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:41

Creepy creepy creepy...

FamousPJ · 15/12/2018 00:39

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AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:36

I AM BOWL, FOR REAL.

See? Must be true.

ClosdesMouches · 15/12/2018 00:36

Geek Xmas Grin

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 15/12/2018 00:36

Good move. When you've lost the argument it always restores some credibility to start shouting and talking about grabbing women's skulls and forcing them around Xmas Hmm

Night all

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KindOfAGeek · 15/12/2018 00:35

TRANS WOMEN ARE MEN WHO WANT TO BE WOMEN

If I shout and bold it on the Internet, that makes it true, right?

AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:35

Doesn't take much for him to escalate, does it? I think perhaps MNHQ might want to take a look at this one.

AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:34

Can I identify as Bowl only during the times in which I want to read scientific papers? So I'd be Bowl-fluid, as it were.

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AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:34

Ooh, assuming someone's gender. That's transphobic, that is.

Bubonicpanic · 15/12/2018 00:33

So now our visitor has explained that it's just a male desire women have to be legally compelled to comply with against our will I think I will be retiring from this thread.

What an arse hole.

Bowlofbabelfish · 15/12/2018 00:33

To which Bowl should rightfully say...

Well I’m flattered Grin

But yeah, maybe that’s the next level of appropriation? To say one is a specific woman? That’s an uncomfortable thought

Sex buyer? Ah. You say upthread women don’t like you so much - do you have any insight as to why that might be?

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AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:33

Totally shocked that grabbing a woman's skull and forcibly manipulating it would be the first thing that would pop into the head of such a lovely person.

FamousPJ · 15/12/2018 00:32

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R0wantrees · 15/12/2018 00:32

I really think we're done here MrPJ

ffsnotagains · 15/12/2018 00:32

TRANS MEN ARE MEN

ffsnotagains · 15/12/2018 00:32

TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN

FamousPJ · 15/12/2018 00:31

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AngryAttackKittens · 15/12/2018 00:29

On the behalf of the feminist hivemind I now label Bowl Awesome Scientist Fem.