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Apple's billion dollar investment directed at allowing men into women's bathrooms

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QuietContraryMary · 14/12/2018 08:13

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" Big businesses helped kill the Texas bathroom bill two years ago, targeting it as discriminatory and unnecessary.

They said the legislation, which would have required Texans to use the restrooms that match their sex at birth, would have hampered efforts to woo new companies to the state and turned off convention planners and sports leagues looking at venues for events.

Now, some companies are doubling down on that commitment, citing diversity and inclusivity as factors in their decisions. Apple made this clear Thursday, when it announced a $1 billion investment in the capital city.

The bathroom bill, or something like it, may be back when state lawmakers meet in 2019. But opponents of these restroom regulations say the business community will again give them the ammunition they need to shoot down such divisive legislation.

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 14/12/2018 23:51

What makes them women is simply their desire to be acknowledged as women. Nothing more

And male desire is more important than our right to speak truth, more important than the integrity of science, medicine and language and more important than women's privacy, dignity, safety, freedom of speech, freedom of association and representation.

FamousPJ · 14/12/2018 23:51

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AngryAttackKittens · 14/12/2018 23:51

I'll do you one better, I desire to not actually be any taller but to be able to reach things as if I were when it's convenient (so, to be height fluid). Maybe extendable arms and legs a la Elastagirl?

HestiaParthenos · 14/12/2018 23:50

Creepy men who hit on me never seem to mind whether I desire to be acknowledged as woman by them. Hmm

Bubonicpanic · 14/12/2018 23:50

Ah, he's explained. It is a male desire.

We have to accommodate male desire. If male desire means that we must see their genitals, that is compassionate.

We seem to be getting some where now.

Keep going.

R0wantrees · 14/12/2018 23:50

People innately know what they are. What makes them women is simply their desire to be acknowledged as women. Nothing more.

O like Karen White.

& Jacinata Brooks

"A sex offender who claims to be transgender has been jailed for 11 years after pretending to be a boy to try and groom a girl. Jacinta Brooks, 41, asked a 12-year-old girl to send indecent pictures of herself – the third time she is known to have targeted children. Brooks, who identifies as a woman and was previously known as Duncan Smart, has previously faced the courts for having sex with someone who is underage and child abuse." (continues)

metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans-woman-41-pretended-to-be-a-boy-to-groom-a-girl-7994533/

Apple's billion dollar investment directed at allowing men into women's bathrooms
Bowlofbabelfish · 14/12/2018 23:50

Definitely shortcrust. Is puff a thing? Heresy...

EverardDigby · 14/12/2018 23:49

People innately know what they are. What makes them women is simply their desire to be acknowledged as women. Nothing more.

So what does trans women rapist Karen White have in common with women that would make sense to put us in the same category?

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AngryAttackKittens · 14/12/2018 23:49

Your shortcrust pastry just has to desire to be acknowledged as puff pastry and lo, it will become puff pastry.

I still won't be eating it though. Relevance to current discussion should be fairly obvious.

Bowlofbabelfish · 14/12/2018 23:49

People innately know what they are. What makes them women is simply their desire to be acknowledged as women.

Nonsense. If you believe in souls it’s ok to say so, but I don’t have to share your religious beliefs. I do t believe in souls myself.

I desire to be rather taller. I’m still short. How hard do I need to think to grow five cm? How hard do I need to believe to win the lottery?

A woman is an adult human female, of the class that produces ova. Humans can’t cjange sex. Magical thinking doesn’t change reality.

feministfairy · 14/12/2018 23:49

Womantheonlykind
Your shortcrust pastry just has to desire to be acknowledged as puff pastry and lo, it will become puff pastry. Problem solved. Xmas Smile

AngryAttackKittens · 14/12/2018 23:48

Shortcrust for sure.

AngryAttackKittens · 14/12/2018 23:47

Yeah, I'd think once would be enough!

Meanwhile, the Nobel committee await the proof that sex can be changed at the cellular and chromosome level with baited breath.

Womantheonlykind · 14/12/2018 23:46

I am considering making mince pies this week but can't decide between puff pastry or shortcrust?

Bubonicpanic · 14/12/2018 23:46

So please explain the third sex that is not male or female as you keep writing they're not men.

Men are adult human males, women are adult human females. Trans identifying males are not female. So are they a third sex?

We are waiting?

R0wantrees · 14/12/2018 23:45

That sounds...odd. Like the Xmas tree flavored crisps that Iceland was selling, possible better in concept than in execution.

I only made it once.. that's usually telling.

Womantheonlykind · 14/12/2018 23:44

BAHAHAHAHA!

Bowlofbabelfish · 14/12/2018 23:44

They're not men.

You previously said humans can’t change sex. Should you have evidence to the contrary you’ll be up for a Nobel.

No men in women’s spaces. No

FamousPJ · 14/12/2018 23:43

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R0wantrees · 14/12/2018 23:43

It is funny how people will assert things blindly to back up an anti-sex worker agenda.

Its quite common for people to assert things blindly when they have an agenda.

FamousPJ · 14/12/2018 23:42

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Womantheonlykind · 14/12/2018 23:41

This new argue nicely approach to persuade the meany wimmins is really failing when the urge to patronise and insist women just be nice (or else) just can't be quelled.

WE SEE YOU

Women's spaces are for women. Because we said so.

NO.

EverardDigby · 14/12/2018 23:41

They're not men.

What makes them women?

FamousPJ · 14/12/2018 23:41

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