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DM: I believe I'm proof no man can truly become a woman

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TimeLady · 14/12/2018 06:48

A poignant story in the Mail today

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6493959/Transsexual-warn-reality-transexual.html

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TimeLady · 14/12/2018 07:59

Good observation, KittiesInsane

And it's not too late for Leanne to take that advice now. Volunteering is another good way of meeting people and raising self esteem.

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nauticant · 14/12/2018 07:56

There is also always that relative who was born prematurely at 16 weeks gestation in 1930 who was fine.

Hahaha, that's great. Now why would a woman in 1930 claim a conception date a few months later than the actual one?

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/12/2018 07:34

I think Leanne is really brave to speak out like this.

Such a sad story.

Funny even in the comments people are trying to deny this even happened and everything is all hunky dory with every trans person they know.

So horrific is a negative truth even thise telling their stories are called Liars.

KittiesInsane · 14/12/2018 07:32

I do feel sorry for her.
But.
The examples given - joining a women’s gym where women change naked, joining the all-female WI, dating unwitting straight men who wanted a female partner - all seem to be self-defeating attempts at social contact. Why not join a clothes-on, mixed drama group, a gardening club, a walking group, a reading society, rather than the few things restricted to the opposite sex?

I know it’s the reporter’s slant on this, but it does look like this lonely, bullied boy thought that there was a different, better world of girls and women there to be joined, if only he could qualify for it - rather than a world of things to do with likeminded people of either sex.

SnuggyBuggy · 14/12/2018 07:19

You do get some strange biology in Daily Mail comments. There is also always that relative who was born prematurely at 16 weeks gestation in 1930 who was fine.

Obviously most adults know transwomen can't give birth but it's the kids with their dodgy PSHE classes and false information who could well end up believing this.

pancaketosser · 14/12/2018 07:17

Brave article.

From this, and posts on other threads this week, it seems to me that a form of 'self-acceptance' (so to speak) plays a part in the treatment for dysphoria. Almost more than any physical transition, which I'm starting to see as more a case of treating the symptoms not the cause, IYSWIM.

A clumsy analogy - you can take painkillers to make you feel better, but just doing that won't address the cause of the pain, and may make it harder to treat the cause.

ABitCrapper · 14/12/2018 07:14

Very sad.
But it there is a comment that made me laugh - apparently someone's son works with a lass who used to be male, met a nice chap and had a couple of kids. I wonder if this person believes that you really can change sex and have birth kids as the other sex!

SnuggyBuggy · 14/12/2018 07:14

It's sad and I think some very vulnerable people are being stitched up big time by being told they can become men or women.

Dimsumlosesum · 14/12/2018 07:04

I feel very sorry for her.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 14/12/2018 07:02

This is very sad and it’s why it’s so worrying that kids are being taught that changing sex is possible. I also think this is why lesbians are being vilified as transphobic- as a way of forcing partners for trans women to avoid the huge problems that trans people face in forming relationships (who cares about trans men- plus ca change).

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