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Nsmum14 · 13/12/2018 15:09

My partner started watching Jordan Peterson videos around this time last year. Being an insecure man who has not really known privilege he was instantly attracted to J P and to his lectures. My partner started to say things like male privilege is a myth. He now believes it is men that are hard done by by the world generally. That women act like they're victims but it is simply an act.
A year on he's watching all these seemingly vile videos on youtube. Last night he was watching a video called How Women Destroy Nations (and why men let them). Whenever I ask why he is watching this stuff he gets angry and goes into fighty mode. We fall out enough as it is so I'm just keeping silent and hoping this phase passes.

It is upsetting to me though. I don't know why I'm posting this. He seems strengthened by what he watches, I think I just wanted to hear what some of you think of this.

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FWRLurker · 13/12/2018 15:55

Facts help. For a really clear example,

What's the rate of murder or sexual assault of males by their female partners?
Compare to the rate of murder or sexual assault of females by their male partners.

Given these facts, is it really so "unreasonable" for women to be wary of male strangers?

Continue into other issues.

Also, It is a common belief among MRA types that the reason women stay home more and men work more is because of female privilege. if it's possible given your circumstance, you could attempt to convince him to become a kept man. Just make sure he knows that if he takes you up on it, he'll be responsible for 90% of the housework and childcare and that you get at least 2 nights a week out with the girls to unwind from your hard day of work.

Then when he says know you can ask him why he said no? And maybe suggest that this is not a totally free choice for women who are just too lazy to work hard?

PleasingFungusBeetle · 13/12/2018 15:54

I think that Peterson is dangerous because he mixes some occasionally insightful commentary with outright lies.

If your partner is intelligent and thoughtful, you could try to get him to check some of the facts that Peterson says. Finding out that how many of them are made up may make him wake up to the extent to which the guy is a fraud

WeRiseUp · 13/12/2018 15:42

Yes. Once they watch one JP video on YouTube the get a whole train of suggestions of other JP talks to worse things. JP is the gateway.

I think the best thing to do is ask to watch it with your DP and take the piss out of what a verbose insecure twat JP is at the same time. Adding comments like "do you think he believes the shit he's spouting himself or he is just putting a load of random words together to sound impressive because he knows the logic and evidence are patchy?"...

Nsmum14 · 13/12/2018 15:27

Thanks for replying zuzzies. Sorry to hear about your brother. My partner is an otherwise intelligent man, he reads philosophy and history, likes to think he has an unbiased view on most themes. But since listening to Jordan Peterson he seems to have become interested in some seemingly poisonous opinion groups. Despite not having read or followed his ideas, I have a feeling you might be right. Jordan P is dangerous not so much because of what he says, as because of where he leads men on to.

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zuzzies · 13/12/2018 15:20

I hope you are not married to him.

If I were you I would get out of the relationship ASAP.

That might not be what you want to hear but it sounds like your partner hates women so no good can come out of this.

You would not I hope stay with someone if they did not like amor acted hated your ethnicity.

Please don't stay.

Make moves to get out of the relationship.

zuzzies · 13/12/2018 15:17

Well I am sorry to hear that, my brother has done the same.

I don't see his very much - we live in different countries from each other but I have had to ask him to stop emailing me his political sexist views.

I am not working at the moment but as soon as I am again I am going to save up some money for his wife and daughters.

I am afraid he is very negative now about women Muslims - he calls me a neo Marxist.

I spent lots of time trying to debate respectively but I have just had to accept that he has the most horrible views. I spent one weekend listening to him and he has awful alarmist right wing views.

I don't know what you do?

I was quite surprised about Jordan Peterson but I think it allows men who deep down feel they are somehow victims to feel empowered.

Like I say as soon as I am working I am going to make it a total priority to save money for his immediate family as I honestly believe his wife needs to leave him and the only way I can think of helping her is by getting some money together that is just for her.

It was horrible and I could see that she has to try pacify him as I ended up doing as it just seemed safer.

I really think Jordan Peterson is dangerous.
He seems to have got a hold of my brother and I believe ha that's spiralled into more extreme views from the Internet.

Good luck - I am sorry but I found it very scary seeing my brother and the way he treats women now is appalling in my views.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/12/2018 15:11

Why are you with someone who upsets you?

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