Glinner and Derrick Jensen discuss transactivism

@Glinner Thank you. Your support is to greatly appreciated. I am sorry that you and your family are receiving so much abuse for speaking up.

There was a recent Twitter thread about trans people and nazis

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That was excellent.
Thanks to Graham and Derrick
Sad to hear that Glinner feels lonely, but entirely understandable.
Makes his standing up to the shit all the braver.

And yes, hearing an uninterrupted conversation about it does highlight the absolute insanity.

Thanks both.

It really is fucking insane isn't it?

I have listened all the way through now and it's lovely to hear two men talking properly about why they care about this. Just absolutely lovely.

Like so much else, the word ally has been yoinked by the TAs, but here we see its true meaning.

Thanks, Graham and Derrick

Great bunch pair of lads

Massive thanks to Glinner, brave and noble, hope more people will line up to the cult-like activities of the TRAs.

@glinner I have listened all the way through now and it's lovely to hear two men talking properly about why they care about this. Just absolutely lovely.

Also, I do know how lonely you must feel. But. I take comfort from the fact that scales do fall from people's eyes in one direction only. Nobody starts as a GC person and ends up a handmaiden to the TRAs. But people are starting to move from a position of benign but inactive support for the Stonewall position to a position of scepticism. That journey literally only goes one way.

More and more people are saying stuff and I listed a few better known names on a thread yesterday of people who had sent their congrats to Janice for her award. Nobody manning the barricades yet but still, offering congratulations when they didn't have to.

It's true that there isn't an avalanche yet - but it is growing.

And you've been absolutely central to that shift. So thank you. And do please know that I am writing letters and getting shitty responses back from people like Aviva. But I will write again. And again. And again. So bon courage. And thank you. And thank you to all the brilliant women on the FWR board. And Jonny Best. And Jane Clare Jones, and Julie Bindel. and Kathleen Stock. And so many others who are chipping away, being clever and right.

Glinner

It feels so nice to hear these words out loud. It makes a difference.

@Glinner, you are a gem. Thank you. Thank you.

Hooray for Deep Green Resistance!

I know (from long and wearing experience) that there's no correlation at all between having a prominent public position and intelligence but even so, Riley's really not the sharpest, is she? The idea that you can threaten libel for something that (a) has been reported unchallenged, for years, in much more prominent places than someone's twitter feed and (b) is a matter of public record is quite amazing. A classic 'Arkell v Pressdram' case.

Glinner, completely agree with you about the comparison with the 1930s. Not because (and obviously you're not saying that) TRAs are nazis, but because TRA ideology is totalising - alternative thought is not to be tolerated, dissent is understood as an existential threat and is therefore to be disciplined through threats and violence.

I listened to this today. I'm quite partial to the dulcet tones of a lilting Irish accent. Have heard most of the arguments put forth before, so really nothing new. Hopefully it helps to reach a new audience.

What I did find interesting was beside the usual suspects trying to shut him down was Graham's friends asking him to stop/step back. The friends are coming from a place of concern, they need to look into themselves as why this topic is such a concern. Their answer should give them pause. Knowing this has increased my respect. Thanks Graham you're a good bloke. 👍🏻

Really enjoyed this, thank you Glinner.

Also very cheered-up to realise that Deep Green Resistance are right there with us, and have been for years.

The whoop and £££ reminds me of Giant Reid with his fur coat, bought from ill gotten gains when taking part in a hoax. The lies and untruths were uncovered in the end, great episode. Maybe life will mirror fiction 😉

Linda Riley is having a pop at Graham now. And getting panned in the comments. She's going to sue him for libel, apparently

Start of thread:

"Why is @Glinner so obsessed with Lesbians?"

twitter.com/LindaRiley8/status/1072469198545321986?s=19

"Whoops- libellous £££ Thank you. I am going to enjoy this."

twitter.com/LindaRiley8/status/1072637159256010752?s=19

What an awful woman.

Bugger, I meant to post this myself. Thanks for the kind words, everyone!

Glinner, re transage, google stephonee Wolscht, who has advised the Canadian government on trans issues.

A very unmumsnetty hug to @glinner.

Proof that us men-hating feminazis/vipers don't actually hate men who don't hate us. Odd that.

Oh, Graham. What a sound man you are.
A voice for sanity.
Everything he's said here sounds so logical and rational.
It falls in the category of so-obvious-it-does-not-need-to-be-said-at-all......until, unfortunately, it needs to be said again and again.

Excellent quote from the woman who said that the real power in society lies in the things that must not be talked about.

"I haven't read the Pink News thing"

They did publish Graham's comment which is worth a read - it's at the very end so you don't need to read the whole thing

Brilliant discussion - thank you both for speaking out the truth and keep up the good work of highlighting the duplicitous forces at play - especially around no debate tactics. Men’s sexual rights Totalitarianism is alive and well alright.

I really enjoyed listening to all this, this afternoon. I haven't read the Pink News thing. Not sure it is worth the bother.

Definitely worth listening to this though.

Yes that’s a good quote. I am not a brave person but at least now I know - thanks to the TRA madness - that while I might not be on the barricades. I won’t be a collaborator.

I cannot stop myself from saying what I see. I am writing letters. I am opening up discussions with people. I don’t care what people think. I am the least rebellious person ever and suddenly I’m a resistance fighter

And thank you @glinner I started listening to your piece today and will continue tomorrow. It was nice to put a voice to the Twitter feed and to hear your empathy with women. So rare. And although it feels lonely you are not alone and we are so grateful.

Cue 'you're comparing trans people to Nazis!

I don't really see how they can pretend to be angry about this. Some of their number called Rosa Freedman, a Jewish woman, a Nazi. Seems a tad hypocritical.

There was an article about the nazi comment today. Some of my woke friends were posting it on Facebook.

Have just finished listening, loved it. Listening to Glinner about his motivation to keep fighting, even though friends and foes want him to stop, I was reminded of something I heard Chris Hedges say (probably not verbatim): ‚rebels do not rebel because they choose to, rebels rebel because they feel they have no choice.‘