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Period poverty / 'bleeders'

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Beagadorsrock · 10/12/2018 14:07

"
❤️Jane Austen was a Super Plus fan, Lizzie preferred a Mooncup + Emma didn't leave Hartfield without her Thinx. But some bleeders in the UK can't afford sanitary products, imagine the scandal at the ball!💃🏽 Donate to @bloodygood__ this Festive Period & help someone's #flowhoho❣️"

twitter.com/ladycariad/status/1072068738147631104

Very disappointing. I can't believe we are back in the Middle Ages so comprehensively.
And no, using 'bleeder' is not "more inclusive" because it includes trans men. It is massively, massively reducing women to a (distasteful and historically considered 'impure') bodily function.

Can I start referring to men as "standuppissers"?

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/12/2018 08:29

But if the current thinking is that men can have babies and periods then wouldn’t they leap at the opportunity to be called a woman? Isn’t that the goal?

stillathing · 12/12/2018 08:26

It was the stated aim of trans activists (can't link to the thread right now sorry) at their secret meeting to infiltrate women's groups and period charities wasn't it? Was this charity founded after the involvement with the vagina ("female reproductive system is transphobic") museum?

HamiltonCork · 12/12/2018 08:24

She clearly doesn’t like women.

adultFemaleElf · 12/12/2018 08:11

This is the retweet by the founder of the period poverty charity in question:

mobile.twitter.com/doublebeewhy/status/1072619413285814273

Maybe I’m missing something (because obviously I’ve lost my sense of humour ever since being called a bleeder) but she seems to be endorsing misogyny.

TeatimeCloud · 12/12/2018 08:10

Or women named Sue.

EeebyMum · 12/12/2018 08:07

Who does she think her target audience is? Apparently it’s not females and not feminists.

Pennydrew142 · 12/12/2018 07:48

If misogyny was hate speech I would call the police... but it’s not, because it’s ok for Gabby and her TRA mates to be hateful to women and our bodies.

rightreckoner · 12/12/2018 07:48

Folk is becoming like inclusive. A previously blameless word that now signifies a wanker.

Neither word means woman either.

ScipioAfricanus · 12/12/2018 07:43

I see she’s using ‘folk’ in ‘non-binary folk’. Horrible cutesy word.

Pennydrew142 · 12/12/2018 07:42

I have just written to Lunette. I’ve used the Lunette for 5 years. I’ll be replacing it.

Notevenmyrealname · 12/12/2018 07:36

So you can’t offend transgender women by talking about biology but you can offend and potentially genuinely upset people who have had miscarriages by referring to them in a flippant way. What about someone who bleeds for 6 weeks after pregnancy but their baby didn’t survive. Is it OK for them to be offended by your flippant comment?

adultFemaleElf · 12/12/2018 07:28

She’s posted on insta instead with a slightly different wording I think
www.instagram.com/p/BrM7bpuh8Zl/?hl=en

Now we are “menstruators”.

What is wrong with these WOMEN that they can’t bear to name themselves?!? Fucking hell.

EeebyMum · 12/12/2018 07:24

Someone needs a word with the founder - retweeting misogynistic guubbins from the likes of Monroe is just the nail in the coffin

adultFemaleElf · 12/12/2018 07:24

That’s quite cowardly.
I’d expect her to either defend her words or apologise.

dippledorus · 12/12/2018 07:02

Why? Did she say?

hackmum · 12/12/2018 07:00

She’s deleted it.

dippledorus · 12/12/2018 06:58

I’d the cariadlloyd twitter account gone or am I blocked?

ErrolTheDragon · 12/12/2018 00:15

Periods are not inherently feminine. Periods are a biological phenomenon that impacts the lives of people who are born with a uterus.

Quite right, periods aren't 'feminine'. And they affect people born with a uterus ... there's a simple word for those. Females.

  • 'So, it’s pretty clear that the use of female-centric words needs to cease in the menstruation industry'

No, it's not. The only people who need these products are females, of course they need to use female-centric words. Add categories of females if you wish - so, girls , women, transmen ...

adultFemaleElf · 11/12/2018 23:34

Wow... the founder of the charity in question has retweeted MBergdof in which she(MB) has a go at “terfs”.
This is one charity I won’t be supporting, I find the term bleeder wholly offensive.
Having suffered a miscarriage where the “bleeding” led to haemorrhaging and hospitalisation it has awful connotations for me. What kind of idiots are these people.

And why are women supposed to RELAX about the language used to describe us, when misgendering is apparently literal violence.

stillathing · 11/12/2018 23:20

So we are left with not one single word that describes the class of person formerly known as women or female humans. Not a word left that isn't transphobic or doesn't have to also include some men. And all these young Gabbies (can't use "women" here can I?) don't see any issues with that?

On the one hand I suspect one of the aims of all this bullshit is to drive people apart - to split a credible Labour opposition, to split the class of women and pretend it never existed before women gain too much power. So I want to do the opposite & attempt to engage with the Gabbies of this world. On the other hand polite female socialisation has allowed this ideology to get too far already. And how do you engage with the equivalent of a flat earth theory?

Mumfun · 11/12/2018 22:59

Lots of movers and shakers in the menstrual products industry have to tread a fine line to be a bit woke.

But Lunette has IMHO gone even more culty with this : store.lunette.com/blogs/news/gender-and-period-care-products?utm_campaign=Global&utm_content=80265697&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

which includes :

'So, it’s pretty clear that the use of female-centric words needs to cease in the menstruation industry'

and the classic :' It is time for us to use this knowledge and understanding to change another label. We’ve changed racist labels. We’ve changed sexist labels. Now, let’s change cisexist ones. Periods are not inherently feminine. Periods are a biological phenomenon that impacts the lives of people who are born with a uterus. We have the power to grow toward inclusion of all people who menstruate, and now is the time for that shift. All people deserve to feel comfortable taking care of themselves during their time of the month. Period'

I am really tired of this all! Doubt very much that it is transmen driving it either

stillathing · 11/12/2018 22:40

In theory because transmen have never ever been female

So it's not enough to believe in their gendered soul having been male all along? One has to believe the body was too.... Like believing literally that the bread is the body of Christ....

Weird that female isn't allowed to simply describe the body though. So, logically, is the belief "born in the wrong body" transphobic now too? If the body was male all along?

No doubt BGP is one of those "women's organisations" who can be relied upon to back the government on self ID. No doubt they secure funding this way. Was it Lisa Muggeridge who spoke of those who identified as her representation? Because these people are identifying as the representation of one of the most marginalised groups in the world - female refugees. And they think they are beyond reproach for doing so.

rightreckoner · 11/12/2018 22:22

In theory because transmen have never ever been female, no siree. But actually because there aren’t allowed to be any female things that men don’t have.

Think of Munroe Bergdorf telling the Women’s March off for centring women’s biology with their pussy hats and talk about abortion. So transphobic Angry

AncientLights · 11/12/2018 22:21

They're working on charitable status for their bloody vagina museum: can we ordinary people object to this, does anyone know? Why in the name of all that is holy should such a preposterous venture have 'charitable' status is beyond me.

stillathing · 11/12/2018 22:13

I still can't work this out. Is it not OK to say (to tie in Gaby's words in her statement with the words about her proposed vagina museum) "women, girls, transmen and some non binary people have female reproductive systems"? Is that transphobic? Why?