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Vice: how an online forum for moms became a toxic hotbed of transphobia

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NotTerfNorCis · 06/12/2018 18:16

broadly.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/a3mn9k/mumsnet-uk-mom-forum-terf-transphobia-feminism

Thought people might be interested in this article. One thing that strikes me is the 'reducing women to their biology' argument. Don't transwomen 'know' they're not male because their body feels wrong? Then it is about biology isn't it? Otherwise why do they think they're female?

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NotBadConsidering · 09/12/2018 23:09

I wonder if this is one of those “monitors”?

mobile.twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1071837104030842882

Ereshkigal · 09/12/2018 22:24

I thought we weren't meant to call people that?

Had exactly the same thought Grin

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 09/12/2018 22:12
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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/12/2018 22:09

Doesn't it mean Talk Guidelines

Shit! Blush

NotTerfNorCis · 09/12/2018 22:02

Talk Guidelines == T*rs these days

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AutumnCrow · 09/12/2018 22:01

Words that hurt are but
petals on the mind
As #LiteralViolets

ChristmasSprite · 09/12/2018 21:57

Doesn't it mean Talk Guidelines?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/12/2018 21:28

TGs = trgers

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 09/12/2018 21:24

Mumsnetters have been writing satirical haikus since 2004. I looked.

Squall BrewCake

Squall · 09/12/2018 21:17

Feeling a little upset by the literal violence of having to keep TGs in mind when I don’t know what they are.
Also, to the complaint of pp about what things people are writing. What are you upset about? The baking recipes? The poetry/ songs? In this new day and age of having thoughts controlled by others, I’d like to know what I should and shouldn’t be posting.
I have loads of really dark shit going on in my life, but funnily enough I really don’t want to go on about it here.

Popchyk · 09/12/2018 21:13

In-depth article
Of woman means nothing by
Witless handmaiden

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 09/12/2018 21:09

MNHQ said: please do keep TGs in mind

I thought we weren't meant to call people that? Hmm

So did I. Maybe it should be please do keep [redacted] in mind?

Arran GrinGrinGrin

arranbubonicplague · 09/12/2018 21:03

Some people say feminist Mumsnetters
Should be restrained in gulags and fetters
For daring to opine
On affairs of our time
And failing to heed self-declared betters.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/12/2018 21:02

MNHQ said: please do keep TGs in mind

I thought we weren't meant to call people that? Hmm

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 09/12/2018 20:56

Bad biology
Says women all have vulvas
Nature is a TERF

AngryAttackKittens · 09/12/2018 20:56

There's always a flurry of enraged reporting on Sunday. Seems like a sad thing to do with your weekend to me, but hey ho.

hipsterfun · 09/12/2018 20:48

With a taste for limericks
I’m on the slide
I’m toxic, I’m slipping under
With a taste of a poison parody
I’m addicted to satire
Don’t you know that I’m toxic

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 09/12/2018 20:47

EXACTLY, Errol. Mumsnet's always been the home of parody & satire. Great hipsterfun!

I am the very model of a busy Mumsnet monitor
Whenever I see terfiness I always jump right on it-er
I think it's quite outrageous how these women are behaving
When they should be talking nappies & the best ways of leg-shaving.

hipsterfun · 09/12/2018 20:40

There once was a young girl named Lily,
Whose politics, inexplicably, weren’t deemed silly.
Cheered on by lib feminists,
Posed head atop her angled wrists,
We all know she’ll keep hold of her
Successful and lucrative modelling career.

ErrolTheDragon · 09/12/2018 19:46

Satirical parodies of songs 'not in the spirit'?Confused
I've been on MN for well over a decade and IMO they're exactly in the spirit of MumsNet.

Maybe we should be more traditional and stick to limericks and haiku?

hipsterfun · 09/12/2018 18:59
PerkingFaintly · 09/12/2018 16:54

That Pam Ayres poem is marvellous.Grin

littlbrowndog · 09/12/2018 16:48

Always same on a Sunday. We get deleted

BirdseyeFrozen · 09/12/2018 16:46

I would just like to say:

Shriek · 09/12/2018 16:45

Been lurking...'knows it all', thanks for posting that Arran, fantastic! Some Sunday pm light-heartedness. ..but seriously Angry

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