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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Debbie Hayton and Posie Parker on Matthew Wright, TalkRadio between 1pm and 2pm **Thread title edited by MNHQ**

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 10:18

twitter.com/debbiehayton/status/1070231803087200256?s=21

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SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 06/12/2018 18:12

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Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 18:11

YY Spartacus, it is.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 06/12/2018 18:10

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Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 18:10

That grin was to Lang, for the avoidance of doubt.

AdamBede · 06/12/2018 18:10

Utter bollocks. At no point did i say my view was the only acceptable one. And I haven't asked you to chant anything. Re-read your posts. I have constantly asked you not to be personal and to debate.

Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 18:10
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LangCleg · 06/12/2018 18:09

Bunbury will have some choice words for me at the next radfem meet up.

And me. LOL! I blame my heroic avoidance of another thread and hope that Bunbury will show me some latitude!

womanformallyknownaswoman · 06/12/2018 18:09

Quite breathtaking DARVO happening

Let me think about menz a while /s

Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 18:08

It's quite a DARVO. Just saying.

LangCleg · 06/12/2018 18:07

I don't want any fucking kudos. I want you to stop being so fucking rude

Don't be fucking rude to start off then!

All you had to do was say I'm firmly in the camp of counting fully-transitioned transsexuals as women and my only objection is self-ID. So I support Debbie and people like Debbie in women's spaces.

See? Easy.

Instead, you barged in, said your view was the only acceptable one and said that everyone was invalidating an identity that even Debbie does not profess to having. On challenge, you proceeded to decry anonymous user names despite having name changed to post yourself.

You don't get to frame our conversations. You don't get not to be disagreed with. And we don't have to chant TWAW because you and Helen Lewis believe it.

AdamBede · 06/12/2018 18:06

So....if I counter personal attacks and accusations I am merailing. Even though they keep coming.

Thanks for the great debate.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 06/12/2018 18:05

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Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 18:05

I'm going to disengage and this angry little person can carry on doing whatever they are doing without my input.

Bunbury will have some choice words for me at the next radfem meet up.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 06/12/2018 18:04

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AdamBede · 06/12/2018 18:04

Utter bollocks. YOU derailed instead of engaging by attacking me personally. It is ridiculous. I wasn't obnoxious at all. Look back - I asked you to debate instead of being personal. I came into this thread because of people cornering Debbie about her bathroom choice which I think is shit and a pointless exercise, and an easy target because she is engaged.

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 06/12/2018 18:03

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sackrifice · 06/12/2018 18:03

I want you to stop being so fucking rude.

Yet, read your first post...so fucking rude. Weird huh?

Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 18:01

I've been involved in it longer than you then Adam. Not that that matters.

NO ONE CARES. Stop merailing.

Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 17:59

And you know, expressing an opinion in an obnoxious way makes it obnoxious, perfectly entitled to it though you are.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 06/12/2018 17:59

Women - why don't you centre men in your views and discussions? Naughty women you /s

“T’int right, t’int fair, t’int fit, t’int proper!”

AdamBede · 06/12/2018 17:59

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AdamBede · 06/12/2018 17:58

Eershkigal I've been involved in the debate for about two years. I've listened and changed my views on it subtly from time to time accordingly. You on the other hand have not listened to my opinion - you have as a small group behaved in a really crap way and I bet you anything you wouldn't say it to my face.

Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 17:57

buoyed by anonymity

Just like you, mate. You want kudos for being here longer than many of us, but you won't say what username you went under. Doesn't work like that, sorry. You could be anyone.

Ereshkigal · 06/12/2018 17:56

Interesting that you're choosing to add to the "toxic debate". Strange, as you don't seem to want women to speak about matters other than very narrowly framed "self ID". This thread has laid out the reasons that some of us disagree with you. Why not listen?

womanformallyknownaswoman · 06/12/2018 17:55

This was the case there, the girls used to block the hole with tissue paper but had to do this repeatedly.

But this doesn't happen - men/boys making peepholes to spy on women and girls /s.

And anyway, women don't have the right to draw the line where they see fit (thx Hannah even tho she used the C.. word :( )

Don't you women know anything! /s

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