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Debbie Hayton and Posie Parker on Matthew Wright, TalkRadio between 1pm and 2pm **Thread title edited by MNHQ**

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 10:18

twitter.com/debbiehayton/status/1070231803087200256?s=21

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ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 05/12/2018 14:12

Something clicked with Wright the day a caller said about a prisoner being watched in a communal shower by Karen White.

To be fair, MW has always been sceptical about the transing of children too. Even when he's shouting women down for saying that tw are not women.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 05/12/2018 14:09

The healthiest response, is not to 'assume' the gender stereotypes/ label of the opposite sex especially when this involves surgical / medical interventions.

I agree. No one needs a gender label, certainly not children.

R0wantrees · 05/12/2018 14:06

Debbie; forcing children to choose a label is deeply damaging

Children are male or female. That isn't a label, its a factual material description.

What it means to be a male or female child is gender eg a construct of society specific to time and place.

There needs to be space for male and females to be unencumbered by gender stereotypes/ sexism.

The healthiest response, is not to 'assume' the gender stereotypes/ label of the opposite sex especially when this involves surgical / medical interventions.

FloralCup · 05/12/2018 14:05

Posie; toilets, 90% of attacks in changing rooms and toilets are in unisex facilities
That fact should be put on stickers to be stuck in any mixed sex toilets.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 05/12/2018 14:03

I'm so pleased Debbie was there, it's not so easy for Nick to shout transphobia when Debbie is agreeing with Posie.

Gileswithachainsaw · 05/12/2018 14:03

I think that was a good show actually.

Showed the complete lack of regard for women and their safety from Nick.

Debbie made some fantastic points but was ckearky skirting round alot of issues as there were no real answers that would make anyone look good

And posie. Clear as always. Loved how she went on about sex. Got the point across I thought.

Would have liked it to have been made clear about the numbers of resisters when left alone.and how many keep their penises.

littlbrowndog · 05/12/2018 14:02

Ta snippy and all for keeping us updated

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 05/12/2018 14:02

Matthew Wright has really done his homework since the last interview with Posie. He's far more informed

Something clicked with Wright the day a caller said about a prisoner being watched in a communal shower by Karen White.

happydappy2 · 05/12/2018 14:01

I think Nick needs to listen to women and respect our rights to safety. Well done Posie & Debbie

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 14:01

Phew, apologies for slow typing and any mistakes are mine alone. It is well worth listening to this when it is available on catch up.
3-0 to Posie for me Smile

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ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 05/12/2018 14:00

Its a tough call .But i think this might have to be the compromise longer term: to admit women and eunuchs to womens spaces.

I don't think the only option is to eliminate women only spaces. If Debbie doesn't want to use male spaces they need to lobby for their own spaces.

Sex segregation is for a reason, that reason doesn't disappear because it's inconvenient for Debbie.

Nicknamesalltaken · 05/12/2018 14:00

Stop appropriating womanhood and insisting TWAW.

TWATW. Then we can move on.

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 14:00

Debbie; get off social media and talk to each other

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dragongirlx · 05/12/2018 14:00

Page 4 of the consultation results
The most frequently raised issue was that self-declaration may pose a risk to
women’s safety in spaces including toilets, changing rooms, hospital wards
and refuges. Often associated with this concern was that the proposed selfdeclaration
system may be open to abuse, exploitation or false declarations.
Where respondents explained their concerns, it was often to suggest that the
proposal would allow ‘any man’, ‘predatory men’ or ‘biological men’ to gain
access to women’s spaces where they could pose a potential threat to
women’s safety. Particular concerns were raised for the victims of rape or
domestic abuse and also with respect to the safety of women in the prison system

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:59

Nick; we should not have a bathroom police force

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:59

Posie; we need to accept sex based protections must not be eroded

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MsJeminaPuddleduck · 05/12/2018 13:58

Matthew Wright has really done his homework since the last interview with Posie. He's far more informed

LangCleg · 05/12/2018 13:58

Not sure Nick knows anything about children or child development

No, he doesn't. He sounds like a real creep here.

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:58

Debbie; forcing children to choose a label is deeply damaging

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:58

Posie; don't medicalise children not fitting in

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MrsSnippyPants · 05/12/2018 13:57

Host; so we trust them to change gender but not buy cigarettes. What %age change their mind? Nick doesn't have that stat!

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andyoldlabour · 05/12/2018 13:57

It sounds as if Canada is "trans central" in the World.

Nicknamesalltaken · 05/12/2018 13:57

Not sure Nick knows anything about children or child development

happydappy2 · 05/12/2018 13:56

Nick is so unqualified total, about children FFS

Nicknamesalltaken · 05/12/2018 13:56

Nick doesn’t really understand it does he? Just regurgitating the party line.