Debbie Hayton and Posie Parker on Matthew Wright, TalkRadio between 1pm and 2pm **Thread title edited by MNHQ**

It's worth reflecting and re-listening to the broadcast discussion.
Three males, one female. Listen especially for the males discussing what is a woman, access to women's spaces etc

It's not just the Pink News collective though, misogyny and anti- lesbian sentiment is widespread and especially concentrated in some of the media, politics, GBT+ environments that PN are centred within.

This isn't about the trans-rights / self id debate its about patriachy and misogyny.

I wonder if Nick has even thought about these things? His writing - along with most of what I read in Pink News - suggests a collective who are so convinced that they are right that challenge and scruitiny must be mendatious.

But I suspect that whatever he thinks personally he is paid to produce pieces according to house style, tone and emphasis.

If Nick Duffy is being coerced to write anti-lesbian and misogynistic articles against his beliefs, I hope that he'll be supported by those who know this & encouraged to leave.

Yes it was Nick who was invited along with Posie and me. After a very reasonable discussion on camera and off, I would have hoped that he might have taken a more reconcilatory line in his reporting.

But I suspect that whatever he thinks personally he is paid to produce pieces according to house style, tone and emphasis.

@DebbieInBirmingham

The issue with Nick Duffy's pieces & Pink News reporting is as the After Ellen article makes clear,

"anti-lesbian sentiment and misogynistic viewpoints."

There are many males who hold such views having 'reasonable discussions' about other things.
Of course women, especially lesbians can identify such views often, even within 'reasonable discussions'.

My experience is that men ususally minimise it when its pointed out.
Not just the men with anti lesbian sentiments and misogynistic viewpoints.

boatyardblues that explains my tinnitus
Never short of an emergency chopstick though.

It's like one of those urban myths my grandmother used to tell me about chewing gum wrapping itself round your heart if you swallow it.

My grandmother told me apple trees would grow out of my ears if I swallowed the pips.

I struggle to keep up too Debbie, but these threads are my education these days, since I've been stopped from picking the hockey team in my older years

Thanks @BirdseyeFrozen. I do try and follow threads on Mumsnet but they move so quickly that I can't keep up.

Yes it was Nick who was invited along with Posie and me. After a very reasonable discussion on camera and off, I would have hoped that he might have taken a more reconcilatory line in his reporting.

But I suspect that whatever he thinks personally he is paid to produce pieces according to house style, tone and emphasis.

'Comedian Cariad Lloyd hounded off Twitter by anti-trans trolls'

Was this the same comedian who appeared on QI and suggested ‘She sells seashells on the seashore’ was about a ‘syphilitic whore’?

(It’s thought to be based on the pioneering palaeontologist Mary Anning.)

Well this has been an interesting read this evening.
Glad that you called back on the thread Debbie, so that I can say thanks to you and Posie.
Thanks also Mrs. SP and others for the link.
(Not so much the rent a rant derail crap)

I do get a bit pissed off hearing the same story from Nick and "men-who-speak-for-lesbians" about lesbians being told to use the men's bogs.

It's like one of those urban myths my grandmother used to tell me about chewing gum wrapping itself round your heart if you swallow it.

Usually they have a couple more quotes, Fox & Owl often oblige.

Yes

Fuck

It was the one the thread is about. Posie too.

Is Nick Duffy the bloke who did a (maybe radio?) show with Debbie Hayton at some unspecified time once? have a shite memory, sorry

women who don't want to be called 'bleeders' are anti trans trolls

Tells us a lot about the nice chaps from Pink News.

Nick Duffy has been churning out this sort of misogyny in his Pink News articles for a long time.

In a normal world she would have said ‘sorry - thought it was a joke - didn’t realise it would offend so many women - my bad - I’ve deleted it and let’s focus on period poverty!’

Not poke the bear a bit more. Insult your supporters, then a bit more and when the bear is fully awake and biting. ‘Waaahhhhg, mammy! But I’m right I’m right I’m right. You nasties. I’m leaving then. You made me do it. You’ll be sorry when I’m dead’ (door slams).

farkinell

women who don't want to be called 'bleeders' are anti trans trolls

now I really have seen it all

Indeed LordProf

See also women who do not want to be called 'bleeders', 'menstuators' or 'non-menstruators'

Pink News Coverage:
'Comedian Cariad Lloyd hounded off Twitter by anti-trans trolls'
Patrick Kelleher 12th December 2018,
www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/12/12/cariad-lloyd-anti-trans-trolls-twitter/

current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3447687-Period-poverty-bleeders?pg=11

Lesbians! That would be the lesbians! Women WOMEN! Females! Lasses, gals, birds, lassies, hens, dolls... non-men even

More 'reporting' by NIck Duffy in Pink News

Pride in London 2019 to ‘enhance’ security after anti-trans hijack
Nick Duffy 30th November 2018,
(extract)
"Pride in London 2019 will have “enhanced” security, organisers say, after the 2018 parade faced disruptions from anti-trans activists.

Pride organisers addressed their plans to change security events in their annual impact report.

The city’s 2018 Pride parade was marred by controversy in July 2018 after anti-transgender activists forced their way to the front of the parade and physically blocked the march from taking place.

PinkNews filmed live from the scene as, after a brief negotiation with Pride organisers, the group were allowed to proceed unimpeded down the entire parade route, displaying signs opposing transgender rights and distributing anti-trans literature." (continues)

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/11/30/pride-in-london-2019-security-hijack-dates/

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3301033-Get-the-L-Out-Statement-by-the-lesbian-protesters-at-Pride-London

Mainstream media is like the creepy uncle who shows up at your lesbian dinner party, uninvited, holding a bouquet of dicks

well put Julia

After Ellen are doing sterling work