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Shocking bullying of gender critical law professor (Rosa Freedman)

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ProfessionalBarren · 05/12/2018 07:29

Absolutely shocked (and wasn’t sure I still could be) by her thread this morning about the abuse she’s endured, including acts of physical intimidation, covert bullying and vandalism. twitter.com/GoonerProf/status/1070158128837246977?s=20 Fuckers.

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/12/2018 12:22

She also seems unbullyable

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/12/2018 12:21

Yup JHB is not afraid to voice an opinion

It’s great to see

Ereshkigal · 05/12/2018 12:16

Julia ThanksWine

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 05/12/2018 12:11

I'm starting to really love Julia H-B. Whilst I may disagree with her on a lot of things I do 'like the cut of her jib'.

theOtherPamAyres · 05/12/2018 12:08

Julia Hartley-Brewer tweets:

I wonder if the urine all over this feminist academic’s door was put there by a woman using her penis

..... and puts on her Adult Human Female hoodie.

The persistent and terrifying harassment of Rosa Freedman is a criminal matter.

Shocking bullying of gender critical law professor (Rosa Freedman)
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/12/2018 11:25

I'm horrified at the lack of support a tenured professor is getting from their own university. And I am Shock that all she wants is students / staff to be reminder about appropriate behaviour - the university should be finding out who these individuals are and sacking them / expelling them!

PutYourShirtOnMartin · 05/12/2018 11:24

I couldn't get past the pissing on her door. I told DH someone had pissed on her door...I didn't give any background info ( he is on twitter and follows same people as me but hadn't seen this) and his immediate reaction was 'fucking men...'...

I agree with him....it's such a man thing

R0wantrees · 05/12/2018 11:21

I’m sure some supportive emails wouldn’t go astray today.

This (both to Prof Freedman and The University of Reading) ^^

see also Jenni Murray & The University of Hull
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3443128-Please-defend-Jenni-Murrays-reputation

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 05/12/2018 11:19

Debbie Hayton is on talkRADIO with Matthew Wright 1-2pm today. Hopefully Debbie will mention it then (lots of people are asking on Twitter) and it'll reach a wider audience

WSPU · 05/12/2018 11:10

It is terrifying. The last thing Rosa said last night was how much it means when people engage with her, listen to her and come out in support. I’m sure some supportive emails wouldn’t go astray today.

R0wantrees · 05/12/2018 11:09

Prof. Rosa Freedman's full thread from OP's link:
"THREAD: The excellent @WomansPlaceUK have put on many meetings in the last year to discuss women’s rights, and tonight I had the great privilege of speaking at one of those meetings. We discussed the law relating to sex & to gender identity. In many ways it was uplifting to be

part of that meeting. I am a Professor of Law, tenured, protected in terms of being able to speak in a respectful manner based on specific evidence, and supported to undertake research on topical and timely issues. That has not protected me from the harassment & abuse dished out

by the transactivist lobby. This week I picked up my post & received three more hard copy letters (separate to the daily emails I now receive) from staff and students at universities in the UK and beyond who are scared to express their views for fear of stigmatisation. This week

I found my office door covered in urine, including some that had seeped under the door, and I spent time cleaning it up because I could not bear the smell or the shame of what had happened. Last week I discovered criminal damage explicitly encouraging me to leave the University

because of my views that a woman is defined by law as biological not psychological. I have been attacked and vilified personally and professionally on social media by a senior Professor at another University who keeps threatening me with action (legal and/or re my employer), and

have had my reputation spuriously and perniciously smeared by the local LGBT charity who seems to have provided the University with wrongful advice on the trans policy (thankfully it can and ought to be changed) and academics spearheaded by @natachakennedy at Goldsmiths (an

institution that is not a leading light on women's rights). Tonight I met other academics who are being harassed in their workplace for setting out views based on specific evidence (i.e. doing their jobs). We all go to work to do our jobs -- and we are pretty damn good at doing

the research, educating, & administration that comes with the job -- yet we are being demonised, harassed, and targeted for expressing opinions based on the expertise for which we were hired and for why we are revered. This evening I was followed by students on campus, and ended

up hiding behind trees because I was scared for my physical safety. I have been open about being a survivor of sexual violence, despite which young male-bodied persons have seen fit to abuse me verbally about rape or to follow me in the dark into secluded spaces. It is now 3.30am

and someone / some people are continuously calling my phone from an anonymous number, & when I answer I am laughed at and told that I am a ‘TERF’ who ‘should be raped and killed’. If this is how a University Professor is treated, little wonder that women who work in jobs without

protection regarding academic enquiry – e;g; factories, shops, schools, restaurants, hospitals, and beyond (where there are fewer / no protections in place in employment contracts and policies) -- feel unable to speak up to protect women’s rights. Welcome to 2018, where people

have drunk the Kool Aid, or are looking to make a career on the back of the Kool Aid, or are just looking for a reason to bully and berate women who speak up (particularly those with expertise). [Good night]

Postscript: I think universities ought to consider sending communications to students & staff about appropriate behaviour. Peaceful protest is a legitimate part of freedom of expression. Harassment and abuse ought never to be tolerated. Employers have a duty of care to employees"
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NotYourCisterinAus · 05/12/2018 10:53

I just read that thread. It's horrifying. And surely thjs type of behavior is also terrorism?

LangCleg · 05/12/2018 10:53

and what have 'anti-trans activists' actually done to any trans people

Laugh at them on Twitter when they make arses of themselves on the radio.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/12/2018 10:49

Hugs and kisses ?

well that's just weird

and what have 'anti-trans activists' actually done to any trans people?

I'd love to know precisely why trans people are afraid to stand behind their views and actions? who has been physically attacked? who has had their work contacted about nothing other than their privately held opinions?

HollowTalk · 05/12/2018 10:46

I've just read all that - it's absolutely horrific. There should be police action on this.

littlbrowndog · 05/12/2018 10:46

Hugs and kisses

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/12/2018 10:26

what does xoxo mean?

Confused

i mean I know it's the least of the issues with that exchange, but I like to be clear Grin

arranbubonicplague · 05/12/2018 10:17

Utterly bizarre Twitter conversation between Michael Conroy and the Uni of Reading Mansplainers and Mysogynists Communists and Anarchists:

MC Men (however young) with obscured faces, amplifying each other’s ignorant entitlement, gathered to silence & intimidate women, are doing a thing called #misogyny

You look like abusers. Seek help before it’s too late.
... (MC offers to discuss it with them)

Thing is, you’d have to not be connected with active harassers - like the people who make rape threats or urinate on doors, anonymous phone calls etc
That’s beyond the pale.

UoRCA We're absolutely not associated with those people. We condemn their actions and are currently working to try and find out who it was and put a stop to it. We support peaceful protest and not abuse
... [When asked why they wore masks.]

Wasn't just men, and we hide them to protect our members from abuse at the hands of anti-trans activists xoxo
---[When challenged that the women are pro-women and would reject the absurd characterisation of 'anti-trans']

Their tweets seem to disagree. Thinly veiled transphobia does nothing to further the cause of feminism

twitter.com/UoR_CAS/status/1070244584800817152

So, there you have it. Minimising, DARVO, mansplaining self-serving justification, and instructing women how to feminist better. Anything missing?

arranbubonicplague · 05/12/2018 09:57

creating a "better" category of women. They are pushing female people out and under. They're simply gatecrashing and colonising the category "woman".

Yes. We must never be duped into confusing inclusion, incursion, intrusion, and invasion because these are the steps for which the endgame is submission, occupation and subjugation.

All western culture rests on the murder of the mother.
Luce Irigaray

janeclarejones.com/2018/10/01/a-note-on-smashing-the-binary/

HumberElla · 05/12/2018 09:40

Students need to condemn the bullying and intimidation. Students need to contact the university formally to complain and be demanding a response. Female students who may feel unsafe on campus after incidents like this should be asking how the university is addressing their approach to student safety.
The most powerful tool is of course £££ because this is what students are to Universities nowadays- walking pound signs. Parents and grandparents or anyone paying fees should be writing to their University and saying they have heard of this incident and what are THEY doing to protect your paying student.
Women are 50% of their customer base. That’s powerful.

heresyandwitchcraft · 05/12/2018 09:28

Rosa Flowers
I have no words to describe how upset this makes me.

Rattinghat · 05/12/2018 09:27

They want to be us - women
Yet they really really don’t like us - women

These extremists remind me of Ed Gein, the guy who dug up women and made them into skin suits and masks.

Mumfun · 05/12/2018 09:24

So angry this morning. Have contacted a Professor friend at Reading Uni to ask what we can do and to help

ChewyLouie · 05/12/2018 09:22

Ok, my days as a student are long gone but how do we encourage female students ( customers) at unis to take a stand against this and make complaints against this insanity. If I had kids at uni I’d be having a conversation with them about this over the Xmas hols. If I was paying uni fees on my kids’ behalf I’d definitely be asking questions of the Uni directly!

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