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Shocking bullying of gender critical law professor (Rosa Freedman)

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ProfessionalBarren · 05/12/2018 07:29

Absolutely shocked (and wasn’t sure I still could be) by her thread this morning about the abuse she’s endured, including acts of physical intimidation, covert bullying and vandalism. twitter.com/GoonerProf/status/1070158128837246977?s=20 Fuckers.

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HandsOffMyRights · 26/12/2018 10:04

Dale will peak a nation on TV.

Bienchen · 26/12/2018 09:51

Dale will feature on telly soon accoding to the article

Ereshkigal · 26/12/2018 09:08

A slightly longer article is linked to. It looks like they've just lazily copied and pasted into this one.

www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/800-people-signed-petition-calling-2315829

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/12/2018 08:43

At least their mouth is shut...

Bienchen · 26/12/2018 08:32

What is it with that coy look? Not out of place on a hook up site but hardly the look for a councillor who wants to be taken seriously.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 26/12/2018 08:15

Overly sympathetic coverage (and they missed an opportunity to show just how “in context” dale’s tweets were but):

Transgender councillor resigns after social media row over transgender rights

www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/transgender-councillor-resigns-blaming-lack-2360515

R0wantrees · 11/12/2018 11:24

Agree Bubonic, he said that he was perceived as a man when people met him. So he knows that women and men are treated differently, but rather than that being a cause of concern - because it indicates structural sexism - it validates his bogus gender politics

He knows that he is treated differently when he looks and behaves differently.

Women who on becoming aware of how female socialisation has affected their behaviour and then rejecting these aspects will also be treated differently.
This doesn't mean that they are being 'treated like a man' or 'are a man'

Its very flawed logic & critical thinking.

Manderleyagain · 11/12/2018 10:13

I have just read Chloe Houston's thread on twitter and all the little offshoots. It's an excellent thread, and I have to say the way she deals calmly with all of the comments is quite something.

So thank you to Rosa Freedman , and thank you Chloe for stepping forward and sticking up for her.

I really hope the University can identify who did this and they are made to take responsibility. We cannot have a proper functioning academic/university sector if people can get away with this sort of intimidation.

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 08/12/2018 22:17

Sorry - meant 'their body language' for Vic Valentine

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 08/12/2018 22:16

And agree on the charm.

I thought the Vic Valentine started off well but when the questions got tough her body language was not at all good.

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 08/12/2018 22:14

About 2 hours - am listening now! (My crazy Saturday nights ..). Maybe try from 1.45 as the whole NB section is good

boatyardblues · 08/12/2018 22:00

How far in is the Bunce question?

heresyandwitchcraft · 08/12/2018 21:39

My favourite was the Philip Bunce question. I could watch that on a loop...

YES!!!!!!!!!!

(Also, Rosa and Susan were SO much more charming.)

heresyandwitchcraft · 08/12/2018 20:53

Watching that video. Amazing performance by Prof Freedman. My heart breaks for her still. Susan Smith was great, too.
The transactivist second team......
So obfuscating. Argued against sex-exemptions, and then when called out on what they mean try to dance around the hard questions.
It's clear they never get challenged.

boatyardblues · 08/12/2018 20:10

I watched the first hour of Rosa and Sue’s testimony. They were a good team, but Rosa was so good. I was really interested to hear what she said about the single sex provisions in Maltese and Irish self-ID laws that were retained in some settings.

WrathofbubonicKlop · 08/12/2018 19:29

On the other hand
She said that she was perceived as a woman when people met her

To be clear, I made up that bit.

WrathofbubonicKlop · 08/12/2018 19:23

he said that he was perceived as a man when people met him
Yes, and trans women are often perceived as men as well.
Funny that.

On the other hand,
"She said that she was perceived as a woman when people met her".

I wonder why that is.

Katvonblackdeath · 08/12/2018 17:11

I think Rosa has deleted her Twitter...Am I right? I kind of feel glad. She could do with a break from all this. She's done enough.

She's so brave and strong. Rosa Flowers

Bubonicpanic · 08/12/2018 16:21

They come across as people that have disappeared up their own drainpipe.

Valentine could not see how shitty it is to say that women should never have single sex rights to jobs but trans people should be allowed an exemption to make what they want trans only.

ErrolTheDragon · 08/12/2018 15:58

So the 'logic' there is 'women are discriminated against ... because we are perceived as women '

Riiight.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 08/12/2018 15:50

Agree Bubonic, he said that he was perceived as a man when people met him. So he knows that women and men are treated differently, but rather than that being a cause of concern - because it indicates structural sexism - it validates his bogus gender politics.

Again it was fantastic to see him being picked up "so is it all about clothes then?"

Bubonicpanic · 08/12/2018 15:42

Tim Hopkins is steeped in sexism. As far as he is concerned women are discriminated against not because they are the reproductive class. It's because we are perceived as women and this is identical to men who cross dress. He describes living as a sex is people using pronouns. Why is this disturbingly sexist old man pontificating on what a Fucking woman is.

(see you tube link upthread)

Bubonicpanic · 08/12/2018 14:25

Fascinating, really worth watching the you tube.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 08/12/2018 14:22

My favourite was the Philip Bunce question. I could watch that on a loop...