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Transgender and eating disorders

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Imnobody4 · 04/12/2018 19:00

Just found this summary of research by Beth Jones. Is it me or is there a subtle suggestion that transitioning cures eating disorders in the same way it cures autism?
Researchers at Loughborough and Nottingham universities found that cross-sex hormone therapy (CHT) reduced the feelings of body dissatisfaction associated with eating disorders, such as anorexia and bulimia, in transgender people
The research was part of Beth Jones’ PhD, and recommended that clinicians working at eating disorder services should assess patients for gender identity issues and refer them to transgender health services to be evaluated for hormone treatment
www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/news/2018/january/hormone-therapy-for-transgender-eating-disorders/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=lbororesearch

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DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 06/12/2018 07:06

I am also non-gender conforming and autistic but I've always known that I was female. Anyone who tries to convince me otherwise can fuck off and take their quack cures with them.

FordPrefect42 · 06/12/2018 01:35

Just when you think you’ve heard of all the autism quack cures going!

clitterati · 06/12/2018 01:29

I was a gender non-conforming child and would have jumped at trans if it had been a thing 30 years ago. I now know that I am also a high functioning autistic.

So is my mother, and she has struggled with an eating disorder all her life.

My children are also all on the autistic spectrum and I fear deeply that they may get hoodwinked into the trans cult.

You cannot cure autism. It is a genetic neuro-diversity that can be exacerbated by environmental toxins and social pressure.

You can alleviate the symptoms of autism by reducing harmful stimuli.

But you can't cure autism.

That's just bollocks.

GraceTheDisgrace · 05/12/2018 01:19

arranbubonicplague thanks for hunting that down.

ChewyLouie · 04/12/2018 22:29

Pleasing, I think it’s that the transgender movement is highly populated by middle aged white men with plenty of money and influence. The mental dysphoria of those with money and influence is being translated to reality. Anorexia doesn’t come with funding linked to those affected.
The study and the conclusion simply demonstrate the narcissism of the trans movement. If you have a problem, if no-one else can help and if you can find them, maybe you can call the T team!

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 04/12/2018 22:18

I know many people will have seen this already, but here is a link to Glosswitch's brilliant article on the relevance of the cultural and political context within which eating disorders and gender dysphoria emerge.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2016/08/anorexia-breast-binding-and-legitimisation-body-hatred#amp

SwearyG · 04/12/2018 22:10

Isn't it nothing more than the risk of death involved?

I hope not. Whilst eating disorders do have the highest death risk of all MH disorders (and iirc most deaths are by suicide, not starvation) I would hope that they’re treated with therapy due to the delusion or the mind/body disconnect as opposed to the risk of death. Much in the same way that other MH conditions where there is a disconnect with the body (for example where someone wishes to amputate a healthy limb) are treated with therapy rather than surgery. We could argue that surgically making someone disabled isn’t death so should be allowed, doctors being pragmatists Hmm

PleasingFungusBeetle · 04/12/2018 21:47

I see so many parallels between body dysmorphia & eating disorders and gender dysphoria that I am quite bewildered by how the two are treated so differently in psychiatry.

Isn't it nothing more than the risk of death involved? Anorexia is treated very seriously because it has the highest mortality rate of any psychiatric disorder. I'm not sure of the precise figures but I've heard that something like 10% of anorexics die of it.

Medical transition may render you sterile etc. But that isn't death. Doctors are pragmatists.

arranbubonicplague · 04/12/2018 21:26

Has someone actually claimed that autism can be cured by cross-sex hormones? I feel like I would have noticed that.

GIRES claims that transition has been associated with the remission of autism, symptoms of ASD etc. I'm having to give a Twitter source with screenshots for this because GenderTrender has been banned by Wordpress (and that's the place she meant).

The symptoms have disappeared once the dysphoria has been treated.

twitter.com/ThrupennyBit/status/1044253173597261824

The full page 7 quotation from which the above is taken is:

Anecdotally, young people who have been successfully treated, are often described as having no residual ASD [Autism Spectrum Disorder]. The symptoms have disappeared once the dysphoria has been treated.

Tackytriceratops · 04/12/2018 21:11

Fuck off ttfsofo with curing autism. They've no idea.

pombear · 04/12/2018 20:03

SwearyG you summarised it so much better than me:

There are young people being failed in their therapy, being told that yes their bodies are wrong, as long as they choose the right kind of wrong

AspieAndProud · 04/12/2018 20:01

Transgenderism is the cure for all ills. It cures autism, eating disorders, rabies, bubonic plague, and being hit by lightning.

Arise, take up thy bed, put on thy stilettos and walk.

GraceTheDisgrace · 04/12/2018 19:54

ItsAllGoingToBeFine my comment above in response to you also.

GraceTheDisgrace · 04/12/2018 19:53

Imnobody4 - I would wager that their idea of "curing autism" is "tomboy crisis averted, transboy is hewing to masculine stereotypes". I have no basis for this comment except life experience and cynicism though.

Imnobody4 · 04/12/2018 19:49

About the autism connection it has been suggested by someone maybe Mermaids, can't remember who, but they claimed transitioning helped autism. It was in connection with high rate of autistic girls presenting as trans. It just seems like cross sex hormones are becoming a cure all for any issue we don't know the answer for.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/12/2018 19:49

Has someone actually claimed that autism can be cured by cross-sex hormones?

Yes. GIRES said that anecdotally ASD trais disappeared after transitioning.

ABitCrapper · 04/12/2018 19:46

I was ill for approx 12 years. I would have jumped at anything

ABitCrapper · 04/12/2018 19:45

What Sweary said.

ArkeNOTen · 04/12/2018 19:44

Jesus. Christ

ABitCrapper · 04/12/2018 19:42

As a gender non conforming ex anorexic I find this greatly disturbing.
I can't articulate what exactly it is because I'm finding it so disturbing that my mind keeps shying away from analysis...

SwearyG · 04/12/2018 19:39

Thanks for sharing, OP. This is one of the oddest things I've read in a long time. I see so many parallels between body dysmorphia & eating disorders and gender dysphoria that I am quite bewildered by how the two are treated so differently in psychiatry.

The article states body dissatisfaction, alongside other factors, has been found the be risk factor for eating disorder psychopathology within the general population and we wanted to determine whether this was the case within the treatment seeking transgender population

Well talk about looking for the obvious. Those with eating disorders have body dissatisfaction, those with gender dysphoria have body dissatisfaction, you'd think that those with both an eating disorder and gender dysphoria might have body bloody dissatisfaction.

We found high levels of body dissatisfaction, perfectionism, anxiety symptoms and low self-esteem were risk factors....transgender people

Just like everyone else with an eating disorder then...

cross sex hormones appear to be able to alleviate eating disorder psychopathology

FFS of course they will. The anorexic brain thinking their body is wrong is having that affirmed and being given a magic bullet. It won't be a magic bullet long term, will it, because the patient will realise that it's not their body that is wrong. It's just like losing weight alleviates eating disorder psychopathology.

transgender males...who are not on hormone treatment some may even restrict what they eat as a way of stopping menstruation

Just like many female anorexics disgusted by their body - its functions as well as its appearance.

Gosh am so cross that's all barely coherent. I went through eating disorder treatment in 2015/16 and again in 2017. There were no questions around gender identity in 2015/16 but they were all over the discharge stuff in 2017. There are young people being failed in their therapy, being told that yes their bodies are wrong, as long as they choose the right kind of wrong. I am too upset to even contemplate how badly it will go for these adolescents.

PositivelyPERF · 04/12/2018 19:39

Dye = due

PositivelyPERF · 04/12/2018 19:39

Let me think 🤔 Having an eating disorder is caused by being in the wrong sexed body or dye to society pressuring girls to look a certain way. I think the feminists win that one.

GraceTheDisgrace · 04/12/2018 19:35

I can play this game too.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5682639/

PositivelyPERF · 04/12/2018 19:35

I’m waiting for someone to suggest that transitioning cures cancer. FFS! Sorry if I’ve offended people, I’m just thinking of the shit I got when my husband was ill.

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