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William Ray on Medium.

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sackrifice · 03/12/2018 08:37

Read it whilst it is up. It won't be for long.

medium.com/@williamray/the-tranish-inquisition-clearly-shows-the-orwellian-nature-of-our-electronic-agora-42883c79a180

On WordPress.com I have interviewed the man who started the R.C.M.P’s Integrated National Security Enforcement Teams. I produced a video describing him as an over reaching secret policeman.

After myself and my colleagues were repeatedly arrested and assaulted during the Montréal Police’s violent repression against their citizens, I organized a campaign involving Canadian Journalists for Free Expression and the Canadian Civil Liberties Association that resulted in Commanders of the Montréal police to be forced to a sit-down and agree under mediation by these national organizations to desist in their violence toward journalists.

have uncovered evidence of the Canadian Armed Forces and other Federal agencies practicing the violent targeting of Canadian environmental groups. I have looked into possible atrocities committed by Kurd troops trained by Canadian Special Forces. I have documented the Israeli arms industry testing drones in Québec. None of these powerful players censored me.

Then goes on to describe the taking down of blogs on Wordpress, and twitter etc etc...

Doing all this under the banner of inclusion and tolerance while practicing exactly the opposite has to be admired for its dark brilliance. Silencing people who differ with your opinion under the banner of “inclusion and tolerance”, labeling dissent as hate speech, while allowing the the most vile racism, the most outrageous calls to violence under the banner of “context” is wickedly effective. Jack is a very clever boy.

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KindOfAGeek · 06/12/2018 02:20

Nothing ever really dies online.

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 05/12/2018 21:52

Bumping and reposting

Ereshkigal · 05/12/2018 18:40

Reading William Ray’s article made me realise what a valuable resource @MNHQ is and why we should thank Justine and colleagues for continuing to host this debate in the face of what must be fierce opposition.

Yes I agree. Thank you all Thanks

sackrifice · 05/12/2018 14:36

The google thing, earlier in the year you had to go 3 pages of search results in before you found one report on the death of a woman.

That is Google AFTER it was cleaned up. It's seeping back in slowly but surely.

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GoldenWonderwall · 05/12/2018 13:32

This is unbelievably concerning because in my lifetime this level of censorship of ideas and information has only happened in countries with totalitarian regimes. There is no place for it in peaceful, democratic societies.

boatyardblues · 05/12/2018 13:21

Reading William Ray’s article made me realise what a valuable resource @MNHQ is and why we should thank Justine and colleagues for continuing to host this debate in the face of what must be fierce opposition.

Datun · 05/12/2018 12:56

In the light of this, the restrictions on what we can say here seem like a canny move. Keep people polite and it’s harder to make an argument that the platform should be banned.

Whether that was the intention or not, I believe it is the result. It would be nice to think it was the intention.

RiverTam · 05/12/2018 12:40

duck duck go gives 3 out of 9 results as trans

ChewyLouie · 05/12/2018 12:16

Bye google, hello bing.

TwinkleToes101 · 05/12/2018 12:02

Just for comparison: "women murdered in 2017" got me 4/10 hits on first page about trans using google.com but only 2/10 using bing.com

sackrifice · 05/12/2018 11:00

That is an incitement to carry out extreme violence against women. In short, it is a hate crime.

Many people and institutions have taken 'sex' out of their protected characteristics so that violence and threats against women are not a hate crime.

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Bittermints · 05/12/2018 10:49

That's interesting, RiverTam. There was a thread about that last year or earlier this year and the results were very similar. I know Google searches are skewed by what else you look for and I suspect if you asked about the UK specifically you might get a different answer, but IIRC a wide range of MN users got very similar results to what you've just seen, indicating that somebody techy is working hard in some way that's beyond my comprehension - search optimisation? Something that gets your preferred hits pushed up to page one of the Google results, anyway. Worrying.

crsacre · 05/12/2018 10:31

Interview with William Ray by Benjamin Boyce:

Boyce is a libertarianish American; he's also recently interviewed Meghan Murphy.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 05/12/2018 09:26

I was daydreaming the other day about how fab it would be if we could persuade MN to create something similar to Twitter but woman-centred. Open to everyone, but with decent rules and moderation, so no porn, dick pics or sexist abuse, but free speech on issues affecting women. I couldn't think who else would be in a position to do something like that!

AngryAttackKittens · 05/12/2018 09:13

Because Twitter, and other social media companies, have lots of transwomen employees, a significant proportion of whom think that stuff is fine, and those employees are being allowed to set policy for those companies.

ChewyLouie · 05/12/2018 09:13

Is there any alternative to Twitter that women can actively promote, then Twitter and their misogynistic silencing can twat off!

andyoldlabour · 05/12/2018 09:09

Why is the mainstream media not commenting on the abusive/threatening comments on Twitter. Why is Twitter ignoring transgender people when they say things such as - "All TERFs should be shot in the head", or - "shoot a TERF today".
That is an incitement to carry out extreme violence against women.
In short, it is a hate crime.

RiverTam · 05/12/2018 08:56

I googled 'women murdered in 2017'.

10 results came up on page 1.

5 were to do with trans murders.

Half. For a section of the population numbering less than 1%

They are everywhere.

AngryAttackKittens · 05/12/2018 08:46

I very much doubt that the waxing and tampon perv and the "dominatrix" are capable of achieving that kind of silencing effect all by themselves, so for the millionth time, who is behind the curtain?

LambChopsMcGee · 05/12/2018 08:45

We need to make connections IRL though, I feel. If we lose MN and Twitter I'd lose all connections with the GC community. It's scary though, and difficult.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/12/2018 08:41

yes. I rail under the restrictions placed on our speech by MNHQ, but things like this make me realise what pressure they must be under.

thank you

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Bowlofbabelfish · 05/12/2018 08:34

once again, THANK YOU MNHQ for letting this debate continue here.

In the light of this, the restrictions on what we can say here seem like a canny move. Keep people polite and it’s harder to make an argument that the platform should be banned.

LambChopsMcGee · 05/12/2018 07:36

Thank you!

GirlDownUnder · 05/12/2018 07:20

LambChops from MrsWooster

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LambChopsMcGee · 05/12/2018 06:45

I'm getting scared now.
How do I access the archive version?

We need the media (mainstream) to notice this story. Private Eye aren't scared of legal action...I wish the guardian would wake up. A few of their journalists are GC, including Oliver Burkeman I think from his Twitter.

This censorship is really crazy. How long do we have here on MN?!

Someone was speaking about a new social network, MeWe? To get around this stuff and stay in touch when we're all off Twitter. Does anyone use it? (Or is it stupid to ask in this forum?)

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