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Bridget Clinch, formerly Matthew Clinch, sues female reporter for misgendering, wants $$$ (Australian)

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QuietContraryMary · 03/12/2018 08:20

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6449179/Former-soldier-sues-reporter-misgendering-people-Facebook-posts.html

Beth Rep, a feminist, paid for MTF Clinch's flights from Brisbane to Canberra to attend mediation in July, the intent of which from Clinch was to silence Beth Rep's FB page.

It is hard to see how any but the most entitled male could argue that she should be silenced from her own personal FB page, which is only visible to people who choose to view it, and which is it somehow made its way onto Clinch's radar e.g. via Sharing, could easily be blocked using FB's tools.

However, that is indeed what Clinch was & is complaining about

See
reason.com/assets/db/1528650368299.pdf "Name of organisation - Beth Rep (Facebook)" "Treated unfavourably because of my gender identity"
reason.com/assets/db/15286524027731.pdf

Also:
"I have spoken to Ms Clinch about what she is seeking to resolve her complaint, and she has advised that she is seeking the following:
An apology;
An undertaking from you not to post anti-trans or vilifying posts in future, and to remove those that are currently on your public Facebook profile;
A further undertaking from you to remove any anti trans and vilifying posts made by other people from your public profile, and to do this in the future if any more such posts are made; and
For you to participate in training about vilification, and trans' issues. "

Note that the complaint is basically a Human Rights Commission-type thing, the same sort of structure used to bully women into waxing the balls of paedophiles in Canada.

There is more detail on the July complaint here reason.com/volokh/2018/06/15/australian-politican-and-trans-activist

(The Daily Mail describes Rep as a 'radio reporter', from what I can see she is the news announcer on 1053 Canberra, which is a very minor AM radio station in one city, with a tiny audience, and it is not a role that would appear to afford her a voice to share feminist/gender-critical opinion - she is literally just being attacked for her Facebook account.)

(Oh, Clinch, predictably, stood for the Greens as a candidate in 2016)

Bridget Clinch, formerly Matthew Clinch, sues female reporter for misgendering, wants $$$ (Australian)
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NotMeOhNo · 03/12/2018 10:10

That is a very poorly written article.

Bittermints · 03/12/2018 09:34

Fantastic article about free speech and the privatisation of the public discourse here.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/12/2018 09:29

The thing is, "misgendering" is not actually illegal, except in New York and possibly parts of Canada? So this case should have no legs at all. But apparently not having the law on your side doesn't matter if you have the power of the TRA army to make your life absolutely miserable behind you.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 03/12/2018 09:26

I hope the Guardian is embarrassed.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/12/2018 09:19

Can you imagine if she'd "misgendered" in an article, if this person thinks FB should be subject to their control?

Also I see absolutely no reason why anyone should pay the travel fees of the person harassing them via the legal process. Not sure if she was compelled to do so or if that was an attempt to make Cinch see reason.

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QuietContraryMary · 03/12/2018 09:17

Not really 'in print', ze is just complaining about her FB page.

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AngryAttackKittens · 03/12/2018 09:07

Nope, Cinch, not happening, and someone who works for a newspaper ought to know why journalists need to be free to say what they really think in print. Though I suppose when you work for The Guardian it's unsurprising that you might get a bit confused.

Ereshkigal · 03/12/2018 09:05

I don't think they care if they convince us. The power is in making us comply.

MadamBatty · 03/12/2018 09:00

Just an entitled bully really. Me, me, me & me.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 03/12/2018 08:57

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/12/2018 08:56

yup. just another male born person trying to control women

it would be boring if it wasn't so incredibly offensive

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QuietContraryMary · 03/12/2018 08:53

Clinch is a father of three and a Guardian columnist, fairly predictably.

www.theguardian.com/profile/bridget-clinch

Clinch is not just a random down-trodden transwoman being harassed by terf Nazis, but in reality a political figure who demands public cash for gender ops, etc.

www.smh.com.au/national/sex-change-soldier-forces-army-to-scrap-transgender-policy-20101204-18ks9.html

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 03/12/2018 08:35

this is a freedom of conscience issue

I look at Bridget Clinch and see a male born individual

why should I not be able to acknowledge that?

when that individual starts being prescriptive about what women can do and say and how feminism should be defined, it becomes particularly important to be able to acknowledge that that person was born male

I'm also looking at you here MNHQ. that sentence was torturous to write (and probably to read). It could have been condensed into 3 words.

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QuietContraryMary · 03/12/2018 08:29

Here's Clinch's Twitter:

twitter.com/CaptainBridget

which links to FB statement

www.facebook.com/notes/bridget-clinch/gutter-media-strikes-again/959961317541350/

This is a predictable mess of insults - 'chimpanzee', 'terf', 'neo nazi', 'nutter', etc.

Clinch also claims "“ex-military man” [in The Australian] is just there to draw attention to my past to de-legitimise my current existence and legal and medical identity as a woman. "

as if Clinch's videos, photos and behaviour didn't do that very effectively.

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