Bridget Clinch, formerly Matthew Clinch, sues female reporter for misgendering, wants $$$ (Australian)

I've contributed to Beth's gofund me, I'd urge any women here who can to do so also the result of this legal fight impact us all. This is one way we need to be using the money we no longer donate to the mainstream charities who claim the definition of women has changed.

Something like that, Juells, but a caveat that some people have chromosomes that are not XX or XY so there’s a bit of natural variation. Vanishingly rare though.

Conflating intersex conditions with trans? - with your name you should know better, BoffinMum! There's no evidence afaik the individual in this case has an intersex condition.

Clinch also claims "“ex-military man” [in The Australian] is just there to draw attention to my past to de-legitimise my current existence and legal and medical identity as a woman. "

from the choice of T-shirt above I wouldn't have guessed Clinch would in any way be shy about having a military past and being trans, on the contrary proud of it.

Even 5 years ago referring to trans people "third gender" was viewed as Practically Murder by the more excitable TRAs.

(Much to the confusion of the people in cultures where it's a common way of framing things, but Western TRAs are ideally situated to explain to people in those countries how their culture ought to work, right? Because they're intersectional.)

but a caveat that some people have chromosomes that are not XX or XY so there’s a bit of natural variation.

Nope. Having a Y chromosome makes the person male, having no Y chromosome makes the person female, no matter what their external appearance. Having no X chromosome at all is incompatible with life.

Two exceptions that I know of make a person whose appearance is that of the opposite sex to their genetic sex: a vanishingly rare gene defect where a piece of the Y chromosome is transferred to an X chromosome creates an apparently male person, and slightly less rare Complete Androgen Insensitivity syndrome creates an apparently female person.

The only Disorder of Sexual Development that is truly a spectrum is Androgen Insensitivity.

There is no third sex.

Remember I am a politically correct type

I don’t think most people see trans people as a “third gender” or accept the idea that there is such a thing as a third gender. Having recently had the experience of there being a tw visiting a place of work that I was also visiting, and hearing the comments made after the tw left, I’m pretty sure that most people probably don’t accept twaw, either (although this is obviously anecdotal)

Something like that, Juells, but a caveat that some people have chromosomes that are not XX or XY so there’s a bit of natural variation. Vanishingly rare though.

I see them as third gender and so do most people.

I think it would be more accurate to say that some people would be prepared to pretend to see them as a third gender. 99.9% of the rational people in the world know there are only two sexes.

What 'third gender'?

They claim to be female but they bully like men. I see them as third gender and do do most people. No amount of chucking their weight around legally or policing speech will change that. I don’t even see why they want to, given the idea of third gender is widely accepted.

"Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry."

"There's no need for it to be this way - just do as you're told, and no-one will get hurt"

"I'm sure you didn't mean to hurt me - be a good girl, and apologise"

I swear TRAs are using the abusers' handbook as as how to guide

There are a couple of Australian groups speaking out.

m.facebook.com/womenspeaktas/

and m.facebook.com/Fair-Go-for-Queensland-Women-333449977434368/

Fantastic article about free speech and the privatisation of the public discourse here.

Not any more there isn't, bittermints That's the second or third article on Medium which TRAs have managed to get taken down very soon after publication recently.

"misgendering" is not actually illegal, except in New York"

Do you know if this is NYC or NYS??? I really hope the former...

The whole concept of misgendering is a bit whooly. Is it really going to become a hate crime to say person X was born a man but now lives presenting as a woman. You just can't force people to state what they know is untrue.....we have eyes FFS

Sorry for bumping this post up again. Honestly I can't help feeling we are screwed over completely here in Australia.

The only people speaking out against this, that have any type of public platform, are conservative/Christian. So frustrating, because due to the still fairly recent (just over a year) vote for marriage equality, it's easy for opponents to point to their bigotry/bias. The problem is, yes they are right about homophobia and bigotry in that situation, but none of those changes impacted Women's Rights.

All the "mainstream" feminists have drank the koolaid. There is no support from there. It is so hard not to become disillusioned. One recent person speaking against children transitioning was Barnaby Joyce, JFC, probably the most unpopular politician (if he still is because tbh I switch off when he's mentioned) the only reason I know he has is that a certain high profile mother of a trans child has been ranting on twitter.

Speaking of grifters though, of course there are children's books promoting transgenderism she has published, and constantly promotes. Now I understand the need of parents of transgendered children to want to attempt to help the public at large to understand the struggles of the kids. Write a novel, create a blog, gear it towards parents, knock yourself out. But when you're writing picture books for young children? IMO that falls under the category of "things that make you go hmmm".

In reflection maybe "grifter" is harsh as she has produced a product, still, I just keep seeing so many TRA's profiting. Patreons, Go Fund Me's and self promoting products abound.

I'm also up for slinging a few dollars towards a crowdfunder. I'd hope any judge would throw the case out, but in the Australian Capital Territory you never can tell.

Just one more bully. And this isn't just about Beth Rep. It's a threat to all women. 'Do as I say or there'll be consequences.'
Clinch can bugger off with that.
Does anyone know if Rep has (or needs) legal support? Happy to put a few bob into a crowdfunder.

Yep, Bowl. The movement is a magnet for grifters.

Bittermints, what a read! I just sent it to my brother, who, while being very GC, is in denial about the sinister power driving this ideology.

There’s a definite flavour of wanting money from everyone to do whatever someone wants to in this movement isn’t there? Massive entitlement, a dinstinct lack of drive and skills and hard work to earn one’s own money and an entitlement to everyone else’s ...

Pay me for being me.

Vile.