Uni of Hull to name building after Jenni Murray. You can probably guess the rest

I totally feel you. I took classes at the Robert Zemeckis Center at USC despite not liking his film ‘Who Framed Roger Rabbit’. Thanks to your tweet I now see that my human rights were violated. I feel so used and empty

Love this tweet

Excellent Oliver's!

Clear logic.

Jenni has shown great respect to trans people but simply calls a spade a spade.

This is not hate.

This is very self serving given the decades of journalism Jenni has done centring on real difficult feminist issues.

I remember listening to her talk about the harsh realities of the menopause in '91 when I was a teen. I hadn't even started my periods at that point.

"Copernicus called and you are not the centre of the universe"

Congratulations to Jeni on the wonderful honour for her. Well deserved.

As a Trans student, can I ask why I'll soon be forced to attend lectures in a theatre named after somone who doesn't believe I am a woman

But you have said it yourself. You are not a woman you are trans. You can’t be both.

You need to widen your volcabulary, Godloveseveryone1. The posters here are not demonstrating “hate”; they don’t “hate” this silly, immature student.

They are showing disdain for the student’s remarks.

If this miserable moaning student can do as much for woman as Jenni Murray has done over many years then they'll be a useful addition to society. Until then.....

I don't hate the trans community.

If people want to conform to the gender stereotypes normally associated with the opposite sex, then let them crack on. I have absolutely no problem with it.

However, assuming the socially constructed sterotype of gender does not affect your genotype or physiology. Wearing a dress does not make a man a woman any more than putting my dog in a skirt makes it a woman.

chewy

Thats fair enough

It was a lovely post of yours though

football-sized bollocks - like the ones that Millwall were shown to be lacking earlier this year?

Rufus , I wouldn’t be saying this to a mature teenager but the poster comes across as a first year uni student with little life experience coupled with lots of anger and growing up to do. I expect one day they may look back on this and feel ashamed by their outburst 😉

I hope that trans women will never be accepted as women. Because they aren't. Nothing to do with Jenni Murray and Hull university.
I suspect most people feel the same.

am open and honest, without offending anyone

I believe football-sized bollocks is the term du jour?

Thats a lovely thing to say chewy

I think it is courageous of you to post

But i dont think its courageous at all

It's not difficult to be part of a group and to have internalised the message that that group is lesser. I don't know what you think needs explaining there.

That, and also, there's no guarantee that anyone in a virtual space who says they are a woman is actually a woman.

There is this part of the Bible where it says to recognize them by the fruits they bear, or something the like.

I mean, if we all bowed to people with misogynist opinions just because they claim to be women ...

Oh wait. That isn't as hypothetical as I'd like it to be. It is what is happening in politics.

Damn.

am open and honest, without offending anyone

Well youve offended me

You said people on here have football sized bollocks

Very rude

a person who has outwardly shown hate towards a particular group of people will soon have a legacy at the university.

What exactly do you think JM said which has 'shown hate' towards any group?

Godloveseveryone you sound like a loyal friend and with your view of the posters here, I think it is courageous of you to post. I’m saying this gently and kindly, your posts are rather naive and carry misplaced hate. I wish you all the best but I sense that you have been brainwashed into the current trans cult. Take care of yourself.

But I love them as a person and choose to rise above judgment and live my own life. I am not hiding behind anything, I am open and honest, without offending anyone. What has that to do with the price of fish?

To quote Fraiser- "Copernicus called and you are not the centre of the universe"

What a bloody bonkers situation. I don't have anything pithy or witty to say about it.

Has anyone told the student in the op that the world does not revolve around them and their feelings. That there are other people in the world too ?

' The lines between opinion voicing and being insulting have been incredibly blurred in today’s society.'

Given that you came along to Mumsnet just to insult us, I think you need to check out the bit in the Bible about motes and beams. (It's Matthew 7 1-5 if that helps.)

It's never dull in 'ull

'I’m a female myself so please enlighten me on how can I hate women when I am one?'

It's not difficult to be part of a group and to have internalised the message that that group is lesser. I don't know what you think needs explaining there.

Also I have spoken openly with the tweeter and they fully know my stance. But I love them as a person and choose to rise above judgment and live my own life. I am not hiding behind anything, I am open and honest, without offending anyone. The lines between opinion voicing and being insulting have been incredibly blurred in today’s society.