Uni of Hull to name building after Jenni Murray. You can probably guess the rest

The Uni went for free speech! If you were pleased with that outcome & are local this is new - twitter.com/HEYResisters

I hope Hull Uni don’t cave to the pressure. It was a fab uni to go to back in the day.

Not all women and feminists agree with this stance. I am concerned with attempts to define me as a woman in relation to the cis trans debate. I am not a cis woman but a womanI feel really strongly that the progress of equality for women on a range of fronts including pay, democratic representation, geopolitics, genital mutilation, reproductive rights, domestic violence, health, arts and culture, are being subverted into a single one dimensional trans activist agenda. Whilst trans women need to be recognised, supported and free from the awful discrimination they have had and are our our sisters, this is not the main or only feminist issue in the present time. I have set up this petition in support of the name change remaining the same. We all have equal democratic rights
www.change.org/p/vice-chancellor-university-of-hull-for-the-lecture-theatre-at-hull-university-named-after-dame-jenni-murray-to-remain?recruiter=45064590&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_term=psf_combo_share_initial.pacific_email_copy_en_gb_4.v1.pacific_email_copy_en_us_3.control.pacific_email_copy_en_us_5.v1.pacific_post_sap_share_gmail_abi.control.lightning_2primary_share_options_more.control

What percentage of the other buildings in Hull or any other university are named after people who really believe transwomen are women?

Name one?

Jenni Murray is on University Challenge right now, BBC1!

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tweet support to @hullalumni & @uniofhull
email Professor Susan Lea [email protected] who chaired the event & [email protected] who put on the event.

JM got good applause at the event.

@Godloveseveryone1
If you really do know the person behind this campaign and she is a good person, but you say yourself that you don't believe that she is a woman, how can you agree that Jenni Murray is a Transphobe?
Did you read the article which caused the furore?
Jenni Murray basically says 'Trans women are good and great, have dangers and difficulties and struggles just like the rest of us, but because they are not biologically female they cannot share many women's issues and therefore, although trans women are great, they should not claim to represent women.'
Jenni Murray is no more a transphobe than you are.

Hull Uni need to hear there is a lot of support out there for JM as we know all too well they will have been piled on by TRA about this. Who can we contact? The Hull I know is free thinking and independently minded, I really hope they don’t fold on this.

Another one really hoping Hull University won't cave in on this, otherwise the senior management might as well retire and let the students run the place. One of the important aspects of university education should be learning to listen to and debate differing opinions, rather than living in a little snowflakey bubble where nothing is said which might upset your feelings.

That's where Jack's Grandpa and his gender neutral bombers come in #notalloldpeople

Come on Hull. Hold the line against this nonsense

FFS. How depressing that a back-down is even being considered

Hope they don’t back down- women being endlessly silenced (unless they support men). Once you really see what’s going on, it’s infuriating. No wonder it seems to be fast becoming the new anorexia for teen girls, I’d have been tempted to believe the claptrap when I was younger too!

Is it too much to hope that if Hull uni gives in to misogynistic bullying, whoever they choose to replace Jenni, and the other alumni mentioned in that link will have a Spartacus moment?

I heard they were re-considering too. I hope they don't back down. I wanted to go to the event last night but it was badly timed for me :(
So who to email to support the original decision?...
There must be others of you in the area - I'm feeling very alone being GC. Some were trying to pin a generational divide on Jenni Murray's stance.

They might back down

Jenni Murray: University of Hull to review theatre name change amid trans row

A university will review its decision to name a lecture theatre after Dame Jenni Murray after protests over her comments about transgender people.

The University of Hull's plan to honour the BBC Radio 4 host sparked a backlash from staff and students against an article she wrote in 2017.

I wonder if the student catechised his grandfather properly on every single question you need to answer properly to be classed as not transphobic.
I fear not.

Kat, that tweet was so full of non-sequiturs it was impossible to follow.

A person's grandfather fought in WW2, therefore he wasn't transphobic, therefore Hull University shouldn't name a lecture theatre after a famous alumna?

Huh?

However, assuming the socially constructed sterotype of gender does not affect your genotype or physiology. Wearing a dress does not make a man a woman any more than putting my dog in a skirt makes it a woman.

Nicely put.

Students seem to manage to drag transphobia into everything.

Man born in 1920s flys plane in non transphobic manner to the Mediterranean.

Well that's very clever of him indeed. You do seem very proud indeed of that. Do you think the lack of transphobia was the reason the war was won too?

My nan was in the WAAF during WW2.
She was born in 1919. Women didn’t have penises then and they still didn’t have penises when my nan died in 2004. My nan would’ve happily pointed this out to both Jack and his grandfather.

Nan would also point out that WW2 conscription was sex based.
As in, sex observed at birth, by your mam, at home. Not assigned by doctors, unless you happened to be able to afford them.
Nan’s family, my family, couldn’t.

Fortunately back then, we were working off the old-money biology system, not this new-fangled sex-spectrum stuff, so even illiterate farm labourers could tell boy babies from girl babies.

Nan would happily tell Jack and his grandad that there were no transwomen in the Women’s Auxilary Air Force.

She’d also happily tell Jack to bugger off because his dead grandad has absolutely fuck-all to do with a university acknowledging the achievements of contemporary women.

Because my grandfather served his country in a war nearly 80 years ago, a university building shouldn't be named after someone who's put decades of work into women's rights.

Not very hot on causality is he?

I bet his grandfather didn't use transgender as the term of reference. Times have got better.

There was no protest just before/outside the event.

Some of the students had a protest (naming a lecture theatre after someone you don't agree with somehow takes away human rights.. who knew... )
This tweet tickled me. I'm sure you had loads of chats with grandpa on Jenni Murray and how she took away human rights from trans people. Sure you did poppet.

Went to the Hull University Women in Leadership and all the women having lecture theatres named after them were there. Jenni Murray in person ! A very interesting event and was also taken with Virginia Bottomley as a woman who has achieved a lot. (Not about politics but speaking up.)
twitter.com/UniOfHull/status/1069661892690497536

Now I am at all rabbits.