Is the tide turning? Lots on Twitter today

Do they seriously expect people to believe this disingenuous shite?

I genuinely wonder whether those who are projecting (clear projections here with the suggestion that it’s the GC arguments that are flimsy etc) believe their own lies. I suspect they do, thus they are probably unable to imagine the very idea that the majority do not see things they way they do.

A dog isn't just for Christmas. It's for transition too.

Or is the life bit redundant if the dog deadwoofs at the owner?

I think there is a shift happening - I work at a university and someone (presumably a student) has written 'female is not a feeling' inside all of the ladies toilet stalls in my building.

I was in M&S recently and there was a group of women, who I guessed were in their 40s, discussing how they were worried about self ID. I'd never actually heard it discussed IRL before like that.

The Reddit dog link here Off to read it myself.

The fact that 'delusional' is used as an insult means it is becoming taboo to mention delusions, but it seems to be increasingly necessary to discuss them.

I’m always careful when I mention delusional thinking on a post here to point out that delusional is a medical term and has a medical meaning, because otherwise I’d probably have been banned and screenshotted all over Twitter.

But to say someone holds a delusional belief actually means something. Of course queer theory and postbloodymodernism would have us chuck every bit of concise terminology out of the window and cry that we are being mean to even suggest someone’s beliefs are delusional. That in itself is worrying - how can we discuss and research if we cannot define?

This is the second time this week I have heard talk of pulling apart the flimsy 'anti trans' arguments - the first was from the person who apologised having seen themselves on the C4 documentary. This seems to be a new thing.

I haven't actually witnessed any 'pulling apart' yet. I am really looking forward to hearing the new arguments - I would welcome having my views challenged.

A colleague of mine had a break through this week. She had been fully sold on the argument that to view TW as male you are denying their existence as transwomen - being male and any kind of women being mutually exclusive. She now recognises that, by the same vein, in viewing transwomen as female, you are denying the existence of females. She finally sees the conflict of interests. She is genuinely feeling very troubled by this.

the dog being scared of my wife is invalidating

That dog needs re-educating. What a fucking bigot.

Reminds me of our old dog who didn't like men in general. She was a rescue dog and presumably had had a bad experience in the past before coming to us. She was absolutely fine with women.

It was quite funny the number of times that some blundering bloke would approach, totally ignore my polite "please don't approach her, she'll go for you" and then jump back in horror as our girl, ahem, asserted her boundaries.

She knew what a man was all right.

That poor dog

We don’t have a dog, but my children frequently fail to validate my feelings and my innate internal identity (Beyonce in my head, younger Hattie Jacques IRL), miniature little monsters that they are.

😂😂😂 tbh I really really want to see the replies to the dog fiasco. Any chance of posting them?

OMG Pain. I can’t comment further without getting into trouble with the mods.

Posting without comment

That looks great.
The fact that 'delusional' is used as an insult means it is becoming taboo to mention delusions, but it seems to be increasingly necessary to discuss them.

I wonder if there will be any discussion about the influence of recreational drugs.

Wow borntobequiet I like the look of that series, thank you. Particularly interested in intensive care delirium because of my job, but also obviously (since I'm on this thread) interested in delusions of the body. I wonder if it's rather like hearing voices - huge numbers of people do have voices that they hear, what varies is how much they suffer as a result of them/how much their lives are affected by them. Might be the same with delusions.

borntobequiet that looks so interesting, thank you so much for posting!

A History of Delusions
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001d95/episodes/guide
Coming up on Radio 4

Dropping in a recent classic from Fionne Olander:

Was out in Manc, used the gents, one cubicle, no toilet seat but floor to ceiling door ty God. Came out and washed my hands guy using urinal looks over his shoulder and asks if this is the guys. I say "I am a guy" and he smiles & says "you're a pretty guy" I thank him and leave

twitter.com/FionneOrlander/status/1067114320495034369

I admire Fionne, Grayson Perry, and others like them who are choosing to 'expand the bandwidth' of what it means to be themselves (unlike Alex Drummond who claims: "I'm widening the bandwidth of how to be a woman.").

www.buzzfeed.com/patrickstrudwick/this-transgender-woman-has-a-full-beard-and-she-couldnt-be-h

very flimsy arguments

😂😂😂

Deluded people are...deluded

Can anyone make sense of this message sent to Angelos from 'an individual who holds a senior position at Humanist Students'?

twitter.com/Sofocleous_A/status/1068226545557389313

I can't work out what they're trying to say here:
'I would never say a transwoman is not a woman because she doesn't have a penis'

That tweet is hilarious. If gender critical arguments are so flimsy and easy to pull apart eh? Is that why Alex Shape, Ruth Hunt, Stonewall Bex and numerous others all refuse to debate on radio 4/ meetings etc?

And yeah .. imagine an ideology that made money out of harming children, think we can all agree that that is truly shocking.

Flimsy eh?

I’m still waiting for anyone to explain to me how humans change sex. Or to langcleg on her excellent question if sex is a spectrum, where are the other gametes?

But if it’s all so flimsy, debate it. Pull it apart. Come on.

If they could, they would have done so by now.

In that light, prominent TRAs and allies point blank refusing to debate the issues with GC feminists seems rather strange, no?

X post

His comments under the tweet are excellent. Truth only reveals itself through debate - it cannot be imposed, it cannot be forced.

This is a top down ideology, being imposed.

Gives me some hopenfor the future of critical thought at universities anyway. Well done.