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Don't tell me to LTB-I thought I had peak transed him, but no.

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GoldenPomBearBadge · 27/11/2018 10:52

Anyone got an idea how I can confront this issue with my husband? He is a bastion of male white privilege, but gets upset if I mention it.

He was on the transvestites are my friends thing. He works in the arts and has done for years, so most people aren't very conforming.

He and I have had to agree to disagree on many things but he was slowly climbing the hill. He agrees that he wouldn't want a penis in the changing room or toilet with his mum or daughter.

Both his brother and I are staunch lefties. I was talking to him about the fact I had cut my Labour card up because of the Labour's treatment of women. He hadn't heard of Lily Madigan but said it was fine for a Trans person to be a Women's Officer, and then asked if she had already had the op?

DH has asked me not to talk to his brother about this issue anymore as its very sensitive. DBIL has a male friend who wants to come out as trans but has a wife and children.

Now I am not happy about being told what I can and can't talk about but have agreed that I will just keep the peace.

I said that it was probably awful for the mans wife and that how can he think he is a woman unless he believes in souls? DH is not religious and is very wary of religion. DH said that the man can't help his compulsion and how he feels being trans is just like how a gay person or a paedophile feels-it's a compulsion they can't help

At this point I told him we shouldn't talk anymore and we are both working from home in separate rooms.

I am upset and gobsmaked and don't know what to think anymore. I am not articulate or intelligent enough to have the argument with him but I need to. Any basic pointers would be appreciated.

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UpstartCrow · 27/11/2018 11:40

Setting aside the fact he's a paedophile apologist...
He is siding with the rights of hypothetical men against those of his life partner and daughter.

You can't convert him. When they go quiet its not because they agree with you, or are thinking really hard about what you said, its that they don't want to discuss it any more.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/11/2018 11:36

how he feels being trans is just like how a gay person or a paedophile feels-it's a compulsion they can't help

Wow. Debating trans issues is one thing but making a parallel between gay people and paedophiles is appalling. Making that parallel between trans people en masse and paedophiles is appalling.

Calvinsmam · 27/11/2018 11:34

Ewww he thinks that peadophilia is a compulsion that cant be helped?
Same as being gay? Confused

That’s some wokey dude bro penis entitlement right there.

TinyRick · 27/11/2018 11:30

Setting aside the fact he's a paedophile apologist...

You should ask if it's okay for a Women's Officer (trans or not) to block thousands of women?

Where does he stand on the sports issue?

GoldenPomBearBadge · 27/11/2018 11:08

I know Bad.

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Badstyley · 27/11/2018 11:04

My post was in relation to your DH’s comments btw, not a specific person. Just clarifying that.

GoldenPomBearBadge · 27/11/2018 11:03

Probably not at Sunday lunch Bad, but yes, I am of course with you.

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Badstyley · 27/11/2018 11:01

Oh, so if his proclivities leant towards paedophilia you shouldn’t discuss it either, because he can’t help it. Alright then...

GoldenPomBearBadge · 27/11/2018 11:00

Thank you Grauniad. That is a very sensible and measured way of looking at things.

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Grauniad · 27/11/2018 10:59

That probably didn't make sense - I know you weren't discussing OCD, but both obsession and compulsion seemed relevant here.

Grauniad · 27/11/2018 10:58

I think you may BOTH be right.

I've seen trans feelings described (maybe on here?) as being like an overwhelming itch that you cannot scratch, so 'a compulsion that you can't help' may be pretty accurate.

An unbearable compulsion is not the same thing as being a woman, and is likely to be very difficult for the partner to live with as well as the person concerned, so you're right too.

(OCD is part of our lives here. I have sympathy. I also try to keep a grasp on reality.)