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Another pregnant "man" and the LGBs having none of it (see comments)

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SignMeUp · 27/11/2018 07:37

www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/11/13/im-pregnant-im-not-woman

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hellandhairnets · 27/11/2018 13:28

Oh ffs.

It's all the brave and stunning comments that get me. How much more self-absorbed can this be, is this really what young people are taught these days? Are they so badly educated that they actually believe this? What a load of pretentious wankery. How this woman thinks she "identifies" is neither here nor there.

The story is:
Heterosexual Married Woman Gets Pregnant.

Big fucking deal. Get over it.

Danaquestionseverything · 27/11/2018 12:28

Exactly. Three times the charm.

bigKiteFlying · 27/11/2018 12:14

"I'm not a woman, I never have been. I was born with a vagina.."

If the assumption is woman is conveyed by some womanly essence or soul rather than biology it makes twisted sense.

I don’t see why this person is special though – I don’t feel like a woman – and fit very few female stereotypes and have given birth three times - I'm surley three times as stunning and brave than this person.

Zoflorabore · 27/11/2018 11:20

Well fuck me sideways- person A inserts penis into person B's vagina which results in a baby on the way and they're shocked!

I'm sick of all this.
I worry that my dc won't know what's bloody normal anymore when they grow up, if you don't have a label attached to you then you're not worthy of anything.

Attention seeking at its finest.

Notevenmyrealname · 27/11/2018 11:14

Long time lurker on this page but this story has pushed me finally to comment. What exactly is brave about what she’s doing? I’m pregnant and also reject most gender stereotypes. What should I be identifying myself as in order to get praised for my bravery? To be honest I thought the idea of having a third child in full knowledge of what I’m letting myself in for was brave in itself (others may say stupid, but I won’t accept their definitions to be forced on me). I just want to know so I can feel validated by complete strangers on the internet.

lovetherisingsun · 27/11/2018 10:46

I think, if she/he/they really believed what they were saying, the whole article wouldn't be so massively full of contradictions.

AngryAttackKittens · 27/11/2018 10:40

So wait, if she's sure it's OK to refer to the child to be as a daughter then does that mean that it's actually OK for doctors to "assign" gender and they're right at the time, but then they become wrong later if in 15 years the child says they're trans? Is the doctor then retroactively wrong? Is the Tardis involved somehow?

PegLegAntoine · 27/11/2018 10:38

Good lord. That would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad.

Assuming her daughter’s gender 😂 will she be dressed in pink and frills I wonder?

Danaquestionseverything · 27/11/2018 10:29

Oh the irony. The comments are hilarious, people so concerned about political correctness, that they too don't see the irony of repeating the author's assertions their child is a girl. Therein is the problem with this whole ideology, advocates claim gender is assigned at birth, yet here the author themself? Is assigning the child's gender in utero. FFS.

As for the article itself. Me, me, me, I, I, I....a masterclass in narcissism.

I'm glad to see LGB people in the comments calling this out for the rubbish this is. I can only begin to imagine how offensive it is to them. How do people end up like that? Imho over a generation we've gone to far in praise for children, they're the best, they're soooo special. I'm not saying children shouldn't be encouraged and loved and reassured, but if you find yourself lying to your children about their talents and abilities, it might be time to step back to reality. How many times have we seen someone auditioning for one of the many reality talent shows, convinced they're going to be the next big thing, only to be publicly humiliated because their voice sounds like cats in a blender? Yeah it's funny to see but part of me always got a little angry. How could their loved ones let it get so far?

StrangeLookingParasite · 27/11/2018 10:16

I am so weary of this narcissism.

PositivelyPERF · 27/11/2018 10:15

I actually think the non binary lot are the smartest of a group of navel gazing crowd. They can easily slip back into the background of their mundane lives and no one will notice. Those that go down the medical route will be completely fucked up, when they wise up.

Bloomcounty · 27/11/2018 10:01

I wonder when the non binary lot will realise that, ultimately, nobody else gives a toss? If I employ someone, they're here to do the job, not ponce around pontificating on their deeply felt non binaryship. If they ponce around, I fire them. Simples.

AspieAndProud · 27/11/2018 09:57

What the hell’s the difference between non-binary and agender anyway?

JeremyCorbynsCoat · 27/11/2018 09:55

What a load of absolute shite 🙄

Dragon3 · 27/11/2018 09:55

I feel quite sad that the author has spent so much time agonising over themselves. The energy and time necessary to keep this up must be exhausting.

They have a healthy body and happy relationship. An unplanned pregnancy but ultimately wanted child. Life is too short for this level of naval gazing. How much healthier it would be to enjoy the good things and learn to be happy with themselves as they are. No need for pigeonholes.

littlbrowndog · 27/11/2018 09:42

Where do they get the time to write or even think shite like
Anchoring my identity. Hahaha 😂😂😂😂😂

drspouse · 27/11/2018 09:37

This sounds similar to some teens that a friend of a friend was discussing. Apparently you "can't tell what sex they are" by looking at them and they "just fall in love with personality not sex".
I did not burst this woman's bubble (it was the mum of one of them) but whatever they wear they are still going to be able to get pregnant (and raped).

2rebecca · 27/11/2018 09:30

What happened to just having a "personality"? Why does it all have to be about "identity". It's just the same stuff with a different word pretending they are reinventing the wheel.
It is all very self absorbed.

MrsWinkly · 27/11/2018 09:28

Bloomcounty
The world really is getting stupider, isn't it. I wondered if I was imagining it, but no.
It would seem so.
I'm hoping it's just a temporary blip in proceedings, and critical thinking will resume as normal in a few years Confused

Gileswithachainsaw · 27/11/2018 09:26

Where are the comments I can't see them

LangCleg · 27/11/2018 09:25

I think I’d be in worse shape if I hadn’t anchored myself by building my identity for myself and myself alone

These people have no understanding of themselves as social animals, do they? Considering they think everything, including material reality, is discursive, you'd think it might occur to them this includes their relationships with other people.

MrsWinkly · 27/11/2018 09:24

The whole thing is eye-wateringly pretentious.
"I'm not a woman, I never have been. I was born with a vagina.."
And you had sex with a man and you're having a baby, "...a frickin baby" Shock
Well, colour me shocked and confused, how the fuck did that come about?
Considering you're a panoptical gesticulating non-binman, it might well be a miracle.
Or it could be that your self-proclaimed identity is a big, trendy, attention-seeking patchwork of nonsense and you're actually a straight woman who married a straight bloke and got pregnant.
I just don't know Confused

howard97A · 27/11/2018 09:24

"RORY MICKELSON is a writer who identifies as pansexual and agender/nonbinary/trans masculine."

The rest of the world identifies her as a self-centred fool

R0wantrees · 27/11/2018 09:22

Very similar to an article in New Zealand recently:
thespinoff.co.nz/parenting/04-07-2018/im-pregnant-and-im-going-to-be-a-dad/

BBC documentary shared on recent thread:
BeUpStanding wrote:
"Someone yep I saw that too. It was difficult to watch two such ridiculous and self-absorbed people.

Here it is. Be warned you'll need to warm up your eye-rolling and cats-bum-face muscles before watching this in case you strain something..."
youtu.be/KOTap-sQhu8

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3370188-transman-gives-birth-wants-to-be-father-parent?pg=4&messages=25

Babdoc · 27/11/2018 09:21

Narcissist seeks attention, while “coercively assigning” her own fetus’s gender. Yawn.