Another pregnant "man" and the LGBs having none of it (see comments)

Also, if she’s not going to identify as the baby’s mother, what will she have to call her? Dum? Mad?

Oh I think definitely these two.

It's all just so damn silly. You're just people kids, get a grip.

Is there a personality trait they haven't gendered and labelled at this point?!

I was trying to understand 'trans-femme' last week:

"Transfeminine is a term used to describe transgender people who were assigned male at birth, but identify with femininity to a greater extent than with masculinity. This can include:

Trans woman

Demi girls
Multigender people who identify as female more than other genders
Gender fluid and demifluid people who are feminine more often than other genders.
Any other Non-binary person who identify as feminine more often than other genders.
Transfeminine can also be used as a gender identity in its own right. Although they have feminine gender identities, transfeminine people may prefer not to conform to stereotypical feminine gender expression or gender roles.

The masculine equivalent of transfeminine is transmasculine."

gender.wikia.com/wiki/Transfeminine

Lass the person in the article referred to themselves as non binary and trans masculine. Up until now, I had thought trans masculine was another word for a transman so I've no idea! Agree that both men and women can have "traditional" masculine traits. That's why the person's description of themselves confused me.

You know what this reminds me of?
Grandparents who refuse to be called anything that makes them seem old.

I’m with the PP who mentioned about this baby having a mum who doesn’t want to be her mum. I find that, and the little snippet about looking forward to coming out to her kid, the most horrible part of all this. What kind of narcissistic fuckwit denies her child a mother on purpose? That baby will one day be in a class where they’re making mother’s day cards and she’ll have to what, ignore the whole concept of Mother’s Day? Make a card to “Rory” knowing that it will upset her non-mother because Rory will know why they’ve got a card and they’re NOT A MOTHER.

Which reminds me has anyone heard updates on the current case whereby the female parent who identifies as male is contesting the birth certificate of the child they gave birth to. They are seeking legally to be named as either father or parent.

It seems a few months since it was in the papers.

Well, I burst out laughing at Howard97A's remark.

Important to remember how language is used by cultists. It's not meant to make things clearer. In fact, the only thing it is meant to communicate is who is in, and who is not.

The different labels that collected like Pokemon by adherents of Genderism aren't really meant to tell you anything definable about the adherent. It's meant to keep you off balance so that you either capitulate or be marked clearly as an outsider who needs to be worked on more, or labelled as a heretic.

And isn't non binary the same as non conforming?

It's really what the person claiming it wants it to be as far as I can see.
THe consequences though are access all areas either those of both sexes or a seperate space that is neither sex-based.
Just as some who are non-binary say they are both male/man and female/woman and some say they are neither.

It has much more serious and wide-ranging consequences than are realised.

Almost as tedious as Fox and Owl’s boring hetero relationship. I hope to God that if the female one gets pregnant they don’t feel the need to write about it but I won’t hold my breath.

I’m with the PP who mentioned about this baby having a mum who doesn’t want to be her mum. I find that, and the little snippet about looking forward to coming out to her kid, the most horrible part of all this. What kind of narcissistic fuckwit denies her child a mother on purpose? That baby will one day be in a class where they’re making mother’s day cards and she’ll have to what, ignore the whole concept of Mother’s Day? Make a card to “Rory” knowing that it will upset her non-mother because Rory will know why they’ve got a card and they’re NOT A MOTHER.

And isn't non binary the same as non conforming?

Genuine question, how can you be non binary and trans masculine?

What is "trans masculine"?
Men can be masculine and women can be masculine.

More in deity narcissism but I revel in the idea that this woman won't have much navel gazing time to aches her identity whilst she's changing nappies, breastfeeding and managing on very little sleep. She'll save time by not having to washed her hair if she still shaved it down but the rest of the time she will pretty much look like any other new mother and as a couple they will look like any other family coping with the pressures of a newborn and all the specialness identity bullshit will fade into parenting tedium.

Whatever. It'll pass as your newborns needs will take over.

HidetoNothing
Apologies for late reply (Timezone). Thanks for your response, I did sometimes wonder if it was just my weird interpretation of things.

Grauniad
LOL - True Story: When my Nanna (RIP) came to visit my mum (RIP) after she had given birth to me. She commented on a baby the nurse was taking from the shared ward. Nanna: Good grief did you see the head of (dark) hair on that baby? It looks like a monkey. Mum; Yeah that’s your grand daughter.

Disclaimer: The dark baby hair wore off and became blonde, at least until puberty.

Eh????

(In response to the op article)

I agree in a way InfiniteCurve... I have no desire whatsoever to be a mum and a pregnancy would come loaded with a lot of very complex feelings and thoughts... but it wouldn't be an LGB issue worthy of a newspaper article in an LGB magazine. It's a Being Female issue or just My Own issue to be honest.

These articles etc are about validating a few people's belief that they are pregnant and not women.
They are intended to shift perceptions and enable/force women's maternity services to stop using women/female as terms.
They have a political agenda as well as the personal ones of those featured.

That was just a big load of infantile MeMeMeMeMeMeMeMe.

For the baby's sake, I hope they get over themselves quickly.

What if her darling baby girl has a really grumpy face?

One of mine looked like a tortoise.

I've had a shocker of a day (you know, womanning and that) and that comment made me snorty laugh. Thank you.

InfiniteCurve that may be so, and I may well understand exactly what you mean, but it's still an article about a heterosexual couple having a baby in the most prosaic way possible, and nothing to do with LGB at all.

Actually....I am sympathetic up to a point here.From my personal experience of never finding being a woman easy in the sense of managing to behave in the way I'd learnt women were meant to behave and feel kind of way.
I identify as a woman (yay,biology!) but always felt I was doing it wrong.
The time I felt secure and as if I was doing it ok was when I was pregnant and breastfeeding because those are ,to me,indisputably female/woman things.

So I can see that if how you felt was very much wrapped up in not feeling feminine ( though you are still a woman,dude...) that being pregnant might be very difficult to come to terms with,not in the sense of "how can this have happened" but in how it would make you feel.I only have to remember how both I and DD felt on realising that we might have to wear dresses to a wedding.That felt alien and wrong - and it's nothing in the big scheme of things.

This is about as amazing as Rachel Dolezal giving birth to a white kid.

"Why do all these food magazines always assume people will be eating?"