Twitter bans misgendering and deadnaming

Hateful conduct policy
Hateful conduct: You may not promote violence against or directly attack or threaten other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, disability, or serious disease.

Sorry if I have missed something, but I was wondering why sex isn't included here?

So why does Twitter let those stand? No sane person would do that, yet Twitter lets all sorts stand, especially those aimed at women, but say something like women don't have penises and off you go. How can that be right?

Indeed. The doublethink is only matched by the double standards.

So why does Twitter let those stand? No sane person would do that, yet Twitter lets all sorts stand, especially those aimed at women, but say something like women don't have penises and off you go. How can that be right?

there is a petition started in support of Meghan Murphy:

www.change.org/p/twitter-re-instate-meghan-murphy

Of course I don't think any doxxing or threats is acceptable, no right minded person would think that was an OK thing to do.

Verbeena, so what do you think about the threats and doxxing on Twitter? What about all the 'Terfs, die'? What about the porn? What about the fact Twitter does not see sex as a reason for hate speech?

Do you think Twitter is a one sided in its tolerance of what people say? And if so what do you think the reason for this is?

Open Letter to Martha Lane Fox, Twitter
5th May 2018
Fairplay for Women
"This is a letter to Martha Lane Fox, the entrepreneur and feminist who sits on the board of Twitter. We write to her in the wake of mass deletions from Twitter of gender critical feminists who in many cases have had their IP addresses and phone numbers blocked so that they cannot re-join Twitter.

Transactivists have recently stepped up a concerted campaign to get feminists banned from every platform where they can speak out against the dangerous dogma of trans ideology and stand up for women’s rights.

Women are being told they have violated Twitter rules against hateful conduct by simply stating biological and legal facts. Women must not be shamed or silenced for speaking the reality.

Dear Martha,

Women are being silenced. Women like us.

We are are mothers, doctors, lawyers, teachers, engineers, members of the armed forces, unemployed, disabled, lesbians, married, single, wealthy, poor, Scottish, English, Welsh and Irish. We are liberal minded women, committed to women’s rights, and social justice. We have fought for reproductive rights, gay rights, spent our lifetimes speaking up for women and against male violence and working to change the systems and structures that oppress us.

And now, we are being silenced.
By whom, you might ask?
Well, by you, for a start.

Women use Twitter to speak out about things that matter to them. In recent weeks, for example, we’ve seen women unite in speaking up for women in Ireland using the #HomeToVote and #repealthe8th tags. It has been wonderful to see.

Feminists also use Twitter to speak about another issue that threatens to erode not only our hard won rights, spaces and services, but the very definition of who we are. Transactivism.

This misogynistic, aggressive, violent movement, that has been embraced by the hard Left as the latest civil rights cause, has seen males colonise womanhood and hijack feminism for its own purposes.

Online, women are threatened with violence for saying things that should not be controversial, but have become so. For saying that males cannot become females. For saying that women do not have penises. For saying that women’s spaces such as refuges should be safe havens for women only.

Offline we are silenced by politicians, who dismiss our concerns as hysteria, and who refuse to listen. By journalists, who twist our words and reframe them as hate speech and bigotry. By transactivists, who bully venues who try to host our meetings into cancelling, and who turn up at our meetings with masks and dogs, block us from entering us and assault us.

Not only that, women are being told that to talk about their biology is transphobic. That we must refer to ourselves as menstruators, uterus havers, pregnant people. And if we do not comply , we will be punched, that we deserve to be punched. That we are terfs, who should die in a fire, choke on a ladydick, be beaten and abused. Go to www.terfisaslur.com if you do not believe me.

This is a concerted attack on women’s free speech. The words we use to describe ourselves, our bodies, our biology and our experiences as women are becoming unsayable.

And the worst thing? The platform on whose board you sit not only allows these threats and abuse to go on, but women who point out basic, incontrovertible biological facts are being banned from Twitter for speaking the truth. For saying that men are not women. For refusing to lie.

Women have been silenced since the beginning of time when we try to stand up for their rights. Today we ask you, a feminist and woman who cares about women’s rights, to use your influence to stop this. Stop allowing bullying men to police our language, threaten us and abuse us. Stop silencing women for speaking the truth.

Future generations will surely judge those who were complicit in this silencing of women who spoke only the truth, and who spoke up for their rights. We ask you today to use your voice to speak out against this new wave of misogyny and to stand up for women when we are being deprived of a platform from which to speak the truth."

fairplayforwomen.com/martha/

This gained some media attention,

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3262686-BBC-Report-Twitter-bans-women-against-trans-ideology-say-feminists

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3258983-Miranda-Yardley-permanently-banned-from-Twitter
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3258453-Permanent-Ban-from-Twitter-for-Hate-Speech

Has it reached the stage on Twitter yet where a well known, recorded historical event such as the American athlete Bruce Jenner winning the Olympic gold medal for the decathlon cannot be mentioned?

I've been permanently suspended for tweeting (months ago before the new TOCs) that Ashton challenor is David Challenor's son. I am permanently banned for using Ashton Challenor's original legal name.

Conatus News tweet

Incidentally, one of the -probably intended - consequences of a ban on dead naming is the fact that it covers up the fact that every one of these formerly male athletes were a bit crap as male athletes... thus covering up the very thing that gives the lie to the claim that "it's just that transwomen have a natural advantage, like certain ethnic groups or body types"

Correct. TRAs and their acolytes are already pushing the lie that TW have "no innate advantage" and can even produce spurious articles arguing this (on no scientific basis at all, of course).

These are the sort of people that Twitter are protecting
valleywag.gawker.com/respected-twitter-engineer-dana-mccallum-charged-with-r-1562193427

(dead name Dana Contreras)

I was I was technologically competent enough to set up a Twitter-like platform but one that required people to be pleasant in their exchanges whilst allowing robust discussion about difficult issues.

It's all down to the practical consequences of those beliefs, though.

If you sincerely believe that TWAW, then Karen White should be imprisoned in a women's prison, and women prisoners (who have an incredibly high rate of having suffered male violence and sexual abuse) just have to put up with White's presence.

If you sincerely believe TWAW, then Laurel Hubbard gets to win weight lifting medals despite being a pretty crap weight lifter when lifting as a man prior to transition - suddenly Hubbard magically becomes world class. (Incidentally, one of the -probably intended - consequences of a ban on dead naming is the fact that it covers up the fact that every one of these formerly male athletes were a bit crap as male athletes... thus covering up the very thing that gives the lie to the claim that "it's just that transwomen have a natural advantage, like certain ethnic groups or body types").

If you sincerely believe TWAW, women have no right to single sex spaces, such as rape crisis centres or closed psychiatric wards (where one of White's rapes was carried out).

If you sincerely believe TWAW, then you open up the whole "watchful waiting = conversion therapy" can of worms, and it's hard to see how to resist the juggernaut that is the transing of children - not old enough to vote, not old enough to consent to sex, not old enough to serve in the army, not old enough to drive, not old enough to drink... but apparently plenty old enough to join a pathway that seems to lead inexorably to sterility, irreversible surgery and a lifetime of medication with unknown side effects.

I do not accept any of these situations as in any way right or desirable. They are all of them horrendous.

I don't mind what other people believe, but where it has harmful consequences in the real world, which transgenderism clearly does, then we should be able to talk about it, question it, criticise it, draw attention to the bad consequences.

There is no difference between saying someone can change sex. And saying someone can change race.

People CAN NOT CHANGE SEX. It is impossible

This ^^ & men are not women.

People at the beginning of the thread were pretending not to know why it would be banned/why are Twitter being so ridiculous

Twitter are banning people because Twitter support is run by Furries/men who wear nappies.

Jesus, I thought everyone knew this?

But trans women ARE men by definition!

I cannot make myself believe that men can become women or vice versa.

That doesn’t make me a bigot. It means I don’t refute reality.

You seriously can't be surprised though that you come across as you have a problem with transwomen though (seeing as you 're saying they're all men.)

They are. People CAN NOT CHANGE SEX. It is impossible.

What advantage is it to me, or any woman, to pretend that men can be women? I am not a bit part in their fantasy

So don't accept transwomen as women then. You do you.
You seriously can't be surprised though that you come across as you have a problem with transwomen though (seeing as you 're saying they're all men.)
That kinda be why Twitter be calling it out, I'd have thought - intolerance/discrimination of transwomen/transmen is a hate crime just like racism and homophobia is.

VerbeenaBeeks you keep saying that I’m wrong for not seeing transwomen as women. The fact is, I’m not being hateful - I simply see trans women as men because that’s what my eyes tell me.

Can you seriously not see how you're refusing to accept any transwomen at all

What on earth do you mean by accept?

The religion analogy is a good one.

If a friend has their child christened, I'll happily go along (in fact, I'm godparent to some friends' child on the basis that they know I'm an agnostic, and am happy to play a part in their child's life, just not a religious one).

I'll lustily sing the hymns. I'll stand up and sit down at the right points.

I won't say the creed. But I respect their right to say the creed and not face any discrimination because of it. (Though I'd expect them to have the common sense not to apply for a job with the Humanist Society or similar!)

I am not part of your religion. I do not respect your blasphemies and your heresies

I'm really not part of any religion. Just a random normal woman with my own thoughts. Just like you. Presumably that is as I don't know you.