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How men ask for sex

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hdh747 · 23/11/2018 12:28

Ok, I'm not going to ask this on AIBU as I know I'll get told, 'want it up the arse bitch?' is an empowering question.
I'm quite sensitive to how I'm asked for sex, even with a long-term loving partner. Some phrases ( a lot less obviously offensive than my example above) can make me quite cringey or affronted. Eg, 'want a shag?' Now I totally know that I can say I'm not happy with being asked like that so bog off. But this is me trying to get a benchmark, for what other women (who don't find lap-dancing etc empowering since that's just not me) feel. I know I have issues around this, but I also think there's probably a line when, even in a loving relationship, it can feel unintentionally misogynistic.
Opinions please.

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LooksBetterWithAFilter · 23/11/2018 14:27

13thWarrior Jack Russelling is for example when you’re bent over the washing machine loading it up and the man walks up behind you grabs your hips and starts thrusting your bottom in the hope of seduction. In the manner of a jack russell jumping your leg.
It is right up there in terms of seduction techniques with Willie helicoptering. Hmm I had a boyfriend that did both. Note I said had.
Thankfully dh does neither we go for the daft in jokes and euphemisms approach.

ThereGoesTheAlarmRinging · 23/11/2018 14:25

Grin @ Jack Russeling

Elfinablender · 23/11/2018 14:19

I'm an old romantic, I often say, "I'm going to go to sleep in the next half hour, do you fancy a quick shag?" As the old mn adage goes, it's an invitation not a summons.

AncientLights · 23/11/2018 14:16

My ex persisted for years with 'd'you fancy a quick fuck?' To which the answer had to be 'no'. He thought it was funny to phrase it that way, I thought it was demeaning and unpleasant.

13thWarriorWitch · 23/11/2018 14:14

Ok. I'm going to need a much more detailed description of "Jack Russeling"
WTF?
Pretty sure I've never encountered this but ir doesn't hurt to be sure. Grin

deydododatdodontdeydo · 23/11/2018 13:11

Like applestrudels, neither of us directly ask for it.
One of us might say, "do you fancy something?" or "what are you after"? in a jokey way if we have been kissing for a while.
To ask outright for sex would be weird and off putting.
I can't recall previous BFs being so outright either, although it was a long time ago.
Leg humping - well, we would never have made it as a couple!

Badstyley · 23/11/2018 12:55

I think with me, it’s not so much the manner of asking that would get to me, it’s the moaning and pressuring if I say no. This goes mainly for when I’ve slept with men in the past, but also women as well, occasionally. I’m not sure I’ve ever seriously been propositioned in an unpleasant or misogynistic way, not in a relationship at least, but if I have then it would’ve been met with refusal. If someone says, ‘fancy a fuck?’ I might take them up on it, or I might refuse. If the refusal wasn’t followed up by being guilted or pressured then it wouldn’t bother me. OTO I can remember times when I’ve been asked perfectly politely and sensitively, then if I have declined I’ve got pestered, or resentment, or guilt tripped. I’m of the mind that you can ask how you like, but no means no, and to keep in mind that the manner of asking might make it less likely you get a shag.

whathaveiforgottentoday · 23/11/2018 12:49

That's exactly what my DH does countess or the even worse, touches my feet with his feet which makes my skin crawl (very ticklish and hate my feet being touched) and I move away from him.

Could be why we rarely have sex!

itsnowthewaitinggame · 23/11/2018 12:46

Years ago ex and I watched a funny film where the male, sleaze, character used to say to his wife in a horrible sleazy drawl 'fancy a little old roll in the hay?' It was sooo cringey and hilarious that we started saying it too. Good thing was it was always said in a jokey way so neither could take offense if the other wasn't interested

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/11/2018 12:41

There was a mind boggling thread once entitled something like 'how does your dp initiate sex?' which uncovered the astonishing fact that lots of men do a sort of doggy pelvis jiggling thing which the people on the thread christened 'jack russelling'. It turned out that 1. this is very common and 2. no woman has ever found it attractive.

Badgerthebodger · 23/11/2018 12:36

I quite often ask DH if he fancies a shag Blush in a jokey way. He would never say anything like that to me but he is a much more naturally reserved person than his motormouth wife. I wouldn’t mind if he asked me in a jokey way but if he said it seriously it would be a bit yuck. It’s difficult though isn’t it. For me, if a partner said something like “Let me make love to you” I would find it a total turn off. I prefer the “chancing your arm approach” a bit of heavy petting and not getting the huff if you’re told not tonight dear. But I have seen plenty of times on MN that lots of women hate this. I think each to their own - as long as you’re in a generally loving relationship with mutual respect and you haven’t just had a stinking row about the housework

I think everything changes when the relationship is tricky to navigate. If a man is generally condescending and has the tendency to be a bit unkind then LTB I can completely see how “fancy a shag” would be a much more loaded question

applestrudels · 23/11/2018 12:35

Tbh I've never thought about it but now you come to mention it I don't think me and my DH ever directly ask for it, we just use our own funny euphemisms. You're right though, I would find 'fancy a shag' or such like a little uncomfortable at best - unless it was very obviously ironic and jokey.

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