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Another batshit legal decision

40 replies

Mumsnut · 23/11/2018 06:30

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6419723/Mothers-ex-taught-son-one-call-slag-years-harrowing-abuse.html

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Ereshkigal · 23/11/2018 10:25

Sorry I wrote baseball bat instead of cricket. My bad.

StarsAndMoonlight · 23/11/2018 10:21

Some of the women who aren't 'strong' enough to leave don't have the luxury of taking it to court...

rememberatime · 23/11/2018 10:03

The thing is that women who reach the courts are by definition "strong". The court system is not designed for the weak woman - most women never even get to that point.

To take it that far (especially in the case of coercion which is difficult to prove) means that she simply has to be stronger than most. To leave a marriage like that makes you strong.

of course women who have been subjected to abuse are strong - they have to be.

So the women who are strong enough to get to have their say in court are now being told they are too strong to be there...

I too have a degree and stayed in an emotionally abusive marriage for 16 years - I had to be strong to endure that. I'm proud of being strong enough to leave. To be told I must be broken in order to prove my abuse is heartbreaking...

Avegemitesandwich · 23/11/2018 10:01

Oh God yes Eresh I remember that, it was so fucked up.

Ereshkigal · 23/11/2018 09:54

Judge Mansell heard that Mr Bashir had hit his 33-year-old wife Fakhara Karim with a cricket bat during a jealous outburst, and on a separate occasion held the 33-year-old by the neck, poured bleach down her throat and forced her to take tablets while ordering to kill herself.

Ms Karim reportedly told the court how her confidence was crushed by her jealous lover, who berated her for wearing westernised clothes and called her friends “English slag girls”.

But the judge said he did not believe the 33-year-old receptionist was vulnerable because she was “an intelligent woman with a network of friends” and had a university degree.

Ereshkigal · 23/11/2018 09:52

How dare this judge measure the crime on the way the ‘victim’ has coped? I just can’t believe it.

They use this kind of logic a lot. Remember the case of the woman who had bleach forced down her throat and was beaten with a baseball bat?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cricketer-spared-jail-judge-not-vulnerable-victim-bat-bleach-wife-a7652771.html

StarsAndMoonlight · 23/11/2018 09:19

As long as men aren't held accountable for their actions, all is well in the world, eh?

sawdustformypony · 23/11/2018 08:07

There's no way this woman....[has] come out of this completely unaffected, no way.

maybe not completely unaffected - but how serious was it ? That's the question.

Avegemitesandwich · 23/11/2018 08:01

In one the couple’s one-year-old son can be heard telling Miss Smith to ‘ off’ and calling her a ‘slag’ and a ‘slut’ under instruction from Measor.

Sad

How can a judge think this won't have lasting effect?

Yes, if you are beaten up but recover well and have no lasting effects, does that mean the person who beat you up shouldn't be convicted? Wtf?!

WhoGivesADamnForAFlakeyBandit · 23/11/2018 07:15

I hate it when I look at the comments in the DM and agree. What now rich people can't get burgled? Yes he was run over but there's no permanent damage. There's no way this woman - or her child - have come out of this completely unaffected, no way.

Gileswithachainsaw · 23/11/2018 07:08

Wtf is this crap. She's a parent she hasn't got time to fall apart. You can't punish somone for not breaking down.

Its no different to saying it's not rape she didn't scream.

Is there a petition or anything We can sign?

pallisers · 23/11/2018 07:04

in what other crime does the victim's reaction define the crime?

Iused2BanOptimist · 23/11/2018 07:02

I've asked for my thread about this to be taken down so there's only one thread.

YellowLily · 23/11/2018 06:42

I’m just speechless. As someone currently in a similar relationship, biding my time, I think she is seriously under estimating the extent to which men like him make you doubt your sanity. They knock your confidence and self worth until you feel you will struggle to do anything without them. How dare this judge measure the crime on the way the ‘victim’ has coped? I just can’t believe it.

Iused2BanOptimist · 23/11/2018 06:37

Cross post! I just posted this. Shall I get mine take down?
Anyway it's a disgraceful judgement and I really fear for the child as he will no doubt demand contact and continue to be a danger.