#BristolUniWomen Shami Chakrabarti event tonight

I bet she jumps up and down about colonialism and cultural appropriation but the colonisation and appropriation of womanhood is fine and dandy. Jamie Oliver’s Jerk Rice recipe - disgusting racism. Lady dicks - brave and stunning.

She is dreadful and always has been. I would have been surprised if she made any sense on this topic.

Or fifth columnists. Undermining women/feminism from within to the benefit of men/MRAs.

It's idiotic. More like squatters.

Oh God, 'gender refugees' is going to be the new buzz phrase isn't it? The TRAs love to jump on something like that and milk it dry.

Is it available to view now? If that DIAF comment has been immortalised it should be given wider prominence. I'd be chary of doing it without cast iron evidence of the phrasing, though.

My God her reply disgusted me though. Can't give it word for word but something like "if you lock the house of your gender so tight that refugees can't get in, then you might just die in a fire" - I am sure she chose those last 4 words very deliberately.

For fucks' fucking sake. Lovely veiled victim blaming there.

"Migrants to our sex"? "Refugees"? That's one of the most offensive things I've ever heard on the subject, which is really saying something. More like aggressive violent colonisers .

I'm not seeing the interrupters of Heather BE's talk as refugees from any sort of sex or gender. Just the usual odd bods in black that always do this sort of thing.

Was she maybe offered her seat in the Lords so long as she switched allegiance to TWAW? She's another one in a long line of people who have lost my respect and admiration.

Interesting choice of words

You might die in a fire was very fucking deliberate i think

A short clip on a different subject.

www.youtu.be/r51mzOCdnhY
She seems troubled.

I think comparing women's boundaries to something like Trump's wall is genuinely the most bloody offensive thing I've heard so far in this debate.

Fuck off to the far side of fuck, Shami. And when you get there, fuck off some more. Oh, and tell Jeremy that Labour is dead to me until it remembers what a woman is.

I've never expected much from her. She always seemed a career politician who would never say anything fellow liberals might find contentious.

Great Kirkup article. Good to see The Telegraph engage.

I never got Chakrabarti. Admittedly until this issue I was pretty politically passive, preferring to fight local issues. However she lives near me, though in a much bigger house, and our children went to the same private prep school. Secondary schools are not great in our area, and virtually no one ended up with any moral high ground as they rented; tutored; prayed or paid their way out. But those committed to state education had options at primary level. I was genuinely surprised to discover that this woman I knew by sight, with the City husband and the lifestyle that went with it, was a high profile social campaigner.

That said her recent career moves don't seem to make much sense.

I wonder how she imagines observant Jewish women will cope with her Party's new 'self-ID' ideology

Not sure whether the concerns of any Jewish people are very high on her list of priorities, tbh. Remember her report?

James Kirkup expanded more on who was being afraid to speak up

Jonathan Best
@JonnnyBest
@jameskirkup
article. The many influential ppl who have approached James with concerns but will not speak publicly includes govt ministers, Labour front benchers, backbench MPs, big BBC journalists, NGO & corporate CEOs.
To you all: FIND YOUR VOICES.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/22/must-not-silence-debate-transgenderism-fear-offending-activists/

And as an aside, this also popped up on my timeline

Fraser Nelson
@FraserNelson
I’m struck by how many senior Brexiteers say - in private - just this. That EU membership is preferable to May’s deal. More in my
@telegraph
column tomorrow.

We could do with more courage calling to courage

My goodness, you're so right Freespeecher. Shifty. That's exactly it! I can't believe I hadn't noticed, but the change in her facial demeanour is enormous, now I come to think about it. When she was younger, she always came across as utterly sincere and driven by this kind of fiery determination to tackle injustice (and she really did some superb work back then), but you're right, nowadays she comes across as shifty, as if she's sold out and she knows it.

What price an ermine robe, eh?

I used to respect her until I find out she sent her son to a private school; the base hypocrisy!!
(I don't have an issue with parents whose kids attend private schools if they haven't preached about the ills of segregated education)

Fermats
It's an odd one - I've never known anyone comprehensively junk their own reputation to that extent and yet her shifty demeanour when questioned on it show she's acutely aware of it and embarrassed by it (which begs the question why she did it in the first place).

It's always so sad when your heroes turn out to have feet of clay. I used to really rate Shami Chakrabarti, right up until she basically did a complete white-wash job on Labour's antisemitism problem (the TL:DR version of her report "nothing to see here, move along, move along").

I realise that could require ESP

This thread started so positive & has gone to shit. Do you get a sense the audience is in agreement?

One person on the panel mentioned the disruption at last night's event of the Free Speech Society where Dr Heather Brunskell-Evans was due to speak. In response to her comment, Shami waffled on about her book and being sympathetic towards "migrants to our sex", and the other person said something to the effect of "GRA doesn't concern us".
What about freedom of speech?