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Exited prostituted women

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rebeccamott · 22/11/2018 16:47

I have decided to join Mumsnet - though I have no children. I am exited prostituted woman, who did indoors and now I am Abolitionist.
I am interested in the long-term future, over 2/3 years, in setting a meeting or conference which will foreground the multiple voices of exited women. It would lovely to set up a team of women who are interested in this.
I have been fighting for abolition, and for greater understanding of the impact of trauma on the prostituted, for almost 15 years through my blog and giving talks. I also have many international contacts with Abolitionist groups and other exited women.

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FermatsTheorem · 25/11/2018 09:38

Just bumping this to raise a question about the economics of prostitution and the "it's a job just like any other" myth. The Sunday Times has a number of articles on prostitution today including this one
www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/elana-needs-30-men-a-month-to-pay-the-rent-her-mother-thinks-shes-a-cleaner-ntft2p20r
(sorry, still haven't worked out how to do share tokens).

But the paragraph I want to discuss is this one:
"Elana charges her clients £150 an hour but keeps only £100 because the websites take a cut and send someone round to collect a third of her cash."

So basically, translating that into everyday language, the websites aren't acting as websites, they are in fact pimps, and they send round their enforcers - heavies - to extort a third of a woman's earnings (presumably under threat of violence).

Does this look like, say, a plumber taking out an ad in their local yellow pages or Thompson directory? Do those outlets charge fees amounting to 1/3 of the plumber's earnings? Do they send the heavies round to collect?

I think the economics and the underlying violence of the industry, even the supposedly nice "high end escort working out of a luxury flat and advertising online" end of the industry, needs much more exposure.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 24/11/2018 16:49

Bumping

rebeccamott · 24/11/2018 13:04

Rachel, please do not worry about it. I was fine with your joke, tbh when you have been prostituted a common reaction is for others to make jokes. It takes loads more than that to offend I understand how awkward it can be.

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Gildashairflick · 24/11/2018 11:16

@rebeccamott could you pm me please? I don't know how to do it on my phone. I'd like to open a dialogue with you as I work with current and ex prostitutes/sexually exploited people regularly.

AnyFucker · 24/11/2018 11:13

I find it quite tricky to marry up "humour" with rape, ptsd and the wholesale abuse of women.

Ah well, we have all dropped a bollock at some time or other I suppose.

Rachelover40 · 24/11/2018 11:11

Not at all. Obviously my attempt at humour sank like a lead balloon!
Oh well, I'm suitably chastened but please can we move on.

AnyFucker · 24/11/2018 10:34

Do you struggle with social situations in RL, Rachel ?

Good luck, Rebecca

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Opheliah · 24/11/2018 10:29

Thanks for your message I've emailed you.

Acorninspring · 24/11/2018 09:49

Welcome and bumping thread

LassWiADelicateAir · 24/11/2018 09:43

Oh honestly I'm not being rude, I was joking. I just couldn't resist

Rachel The obsession about all things trans and the need to shoe horn trans into everything hit a new low if you "couldn't resist" making a pathetic, unfunny joke about a woman who has exited prostitution.

BettyFloop · 24/11/2018 01:23

Hey Rebecca, we've met Smile - Witchy (in another life) here. You know I'll support you - I always have.

MrsTerryPratcett · 24/11/2018 00:54

If you're organizing a conference, I think PTSD needs a lot of focus. So high in women in sex work. And treatable.

rebeccamott · 24/11/2018 00:24

Thanks for your interest.
I have been interested in organising a conference or several meeting with exited prostituted women and other Abolitionists. I am in very early planning stages.
My main interest is discussing how to build long-term exiting programmes for the prostituted. In discussing the impact of trauma on exited prostituted women. In organising meet-ups for exited women. In exchanging emails or others ways to contact each other for information and support. This is just the tip of an iceberg.
Please if you ideas or need support, contact me on pm.

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LassWiADelicateAir · 23/11/2018 23:51

Welcome and just bumping the thread. It is essential that the voices of women like you are heard.

MagicMix · 23/11/2018 14:47

Thank you for your work, Rebecca.

rebeccamott · 23/11/2018 14:34

Thanks everyone for your lovely thoughts and encouragement.

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Mc180768 · 23/11/2018 05:19

Welcome, Rebecca. I have been exited from prostitution for 15 years - your post caught my eye

Look forward to reading further.

rebeccamott · 23/11/2018 02:44

I will write again tomorrow, not while my insomnia. If anyone wants me to pm them , please ask, and then I will give my personal details.

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traceyracer · 22/11/2018 21:46

I'm also an ex prostitute. I'm undecided what I think the law should be

MrsTerryPratcett · 22/11/2018 21:31

Sounds like a great project. I've worked with a lot of women working on the street and I've never met that worker who we are told about all the time - happy, empowered, no abuse, no addiction, no pimp, lots of other options.

The men I heard about though? The behaviour? Just horrifying.

Opheliah · 22/11/2018 20:15

Hello

Ex prostitute here. I have read your work on NordicModelNow and you write very evocatively.

I am a regular on mumsnet under many various names. Have been active on rad-fem issues under various names for many years now. It's always great to come across fellow exited prostitutes who are pro NM.

PM me I would like to support your project x.

DidoAndHerLament · 22/11/2018 19:00

Hi Rebecca, pleased you're here - I read your blog and think your writing is really powerful. I agree with you re the importance of understanding trauma and post traumatic stress when working with & supporting prostituted women.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 22/11/2018 18:50

Welcome rebeccamott what a really important project

LangCleg · 22/11/2018 18:12

That is why we should focus on the punters and their entitlement, not the individual prostituted person.

Thirded. Welcome to FWR, rebeccamott - and I wish you the best with this endeavour.

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