Communist Party policy supports actual women

They're probably thinking about campaigns for equal marriage as a bourgeois distraction, rather than wanting a denial of rights.

The quote from Invisible1234 is problematic though, because LGB rights are not identity politics, they are about freedom from discrimination based on sexuality. So working class men can surely be gay and fight for their rights as a class without discrimination because they are not heterosexual. I think they are throwing the baby out with the bath water on that one.

I agree with the more general point about women’s oppression stemming from their biology as a class, though.

If you think of the horseshoe analogy, the two sides are very close and it may be possible to jump between the two.

Can someone clarify, am I now a communist or a member of the far right, it would be useful to know before I make breakfast

There are different breakfast foods, depending?

Is one able to profess oneself to be ideology non-conforming (INC) or violently-assigned ideology depending on perspective? (AIDOP- assigned ideology depending on perspective)? Or whatever would allow someone to stick to their preferred breakfast items?

Funny old world - I could never be a communist, nor do I share very many political views with David TC Davies, but I'm eternally grateful to both for actually standing up for women.

This.

Ash Sarkar thinks?

And that's me laughing on the bus again.

Can someone clarify, am I now a communist or a member of the far right, it would be useful to know before I make breakfast.

I keep wondering this too, birds, I'm accused of being both, simultaneously, which can't possibly be the case. It's most perplexing.

*Stalin sorry

Interesting speech. Horrified about the PhD rejection.

Just wondering where this group sits in the left? I gather they may be the Stalun apologists?

I suppose it would be too much to ask for that the SWP openly rejected transgender ideology, although I know anecdotally they reject identity politics. They will always put recruitment first.

"Socialists must avoid the trap of bourgeois identity politics if they are to make headway in uniting the working class against capitalism."

"‘Transgender rights’ are bourgeois ideology. The whole issue confounds reality. It is pure idealism because the reality is that we cannot choose our identity at will. It is an illusion, a mistake and a crime to teach people to think that they can choose like this, under capitalism."

www.cpgb-ml.org/2018/12/07/news/the-only-thing-that-unites-us-is-class/

It is always so pleasurable to have material reality uncompromisingly and clearly stated.

The tyrannical little pomo shits have been screwing with people's heads for too long with their ridiculous ideology. And why? Because they get off on tribalism, navel-gazing, bullying women, porn and kink. Why have they been indulged by so many for this long?

Can someone clarify, am I now a communist or a member of the far right, it would be useful to know before I make breakfast.

The "Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist)" mentioned in the post above is not the same group as the "Communist Party of Britain" associated with the Morning Star.

Identity politics are anti-Marxian and a harmful diversion from the class struggle (they're Neoliberal)

The following motion was passed overwhelmingly at the party’s eighth congress in September.

While being totally opposed to discrimination on grounds of race, sex or sexual proclivity, this congress declares that obsession with identity politics, including sexual politics, is anti-Marxian.

Congress therefore resolves that the propagation of identity politics, including LGBT ideology, being reactionary and anti-working class and a harmful distraction and diversion from the class struggle of the proletariat for its social emancipation, is incompatible with membership of the party, rendering those involved in its promotion liable to expulsion.

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We will be publishing materials to explain this motion’s content in more detail over the coming period. Check the page on identity politics for updates.

www.cpgb-ml.org/2018/12/07/news/identity-politics-are-anti-marxian-and-a-harmful-diversion-from-the-class-struggle/

TheClitterati that's because currently being a socialist is on trend, but only for middle class white men who believe they get to decide what socialism/women/working class is/are.

In ten years time they'll be Tory voting professionals living in the home counties and pretending this never happened.

Glad to see someone has mentioned Ash Sarkar - last night it occurred to me that this must be very difficult for her. Although, thinking about it, I suppose the Communist party might not be real communists in the way Ash is a communist?

LM (or at least its spirit) currently represented by the likes of Brendan O'Neill and Claire Fox.

How do all the Living Marxism lot reconcile this with their worldview I wonder? I lost track of it all after buying LM twice in 1992 (and receiving it unwanted for another five years or so)

Bloody hell. The Communists are making more sense than the Lib Dems by a country mile

Wokebros v the Communist Party is an intriguing battle (if only how they would depict each other - TERF running dogs?)

Yes. It's come to something when we're having to commend the communists, hasn't it?

Say about the Communists what you will, but they know their shit when it comes to Materialism as the basis of societal realities.

Communists have a long history of support women (if you ignore the whole enslaving them bit but hey, they do that to everyone so at least it’s nog personal)

It would be illogical for them to not stand up for women - communism is based on class analysis, and it doesn't take much analysis to see that women as a class are oppressed on the basis of the reproductive potential of their physical anatomy.

You would think, but IME the socialist Bros don't see women as a class at all. They are all WATM and NAMALT and very quick to abuse women who are feminists and/or who don't fall in line behind them. Very disappointing.

But good on the communists!

Women-only toilets in the Gulags?