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Stella O'Malley, Trans Kids: It's Time To Talk

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drum123 · 21/11/2018 20:06

Apologies if there is already a thread about this. Channel 4, 10.00 tonight. 'Stella O'Malley considers the huge rise in numbers of young people embarking on gender transition, through the prism of the gender identity issues she experienced when she was a child.' According to The Times no TRA groups were prepared to contribute to this . Stella feels this may be because she was a tomboy as a young girl, (even insisting she was a boy until she hit puberty), and is now a confident, mature woman who believes that nowadays she would be pressured to go down the transition route. Sounds like it will be worth watching.

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BouncingOn · 21/11/2018 23:01

That was powerful. I'm kind of stunned.

pombear · 21/11/2018 23:00

Stella If you happen to be here. I'm not a fan of flowers normally but it's mumsnet's way of waving and showing love so, for your documentary, your bravery in speaking out, but also your last comment Flowers

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/11/2018 23:00

it was really refreshing to see that focus on the female experience of transition

even here when we talk about trans we're often really focused on transwomen because that's where the primary threat to women's rights is

but who is looking out for those confused girls?

deepwatersolo · 21/11/2018 23:00

I wonder if some of the pro TRA women MPs are watching this. Is Leyla Moran seeing the soul of the protesters? Or does that only work in changing rooms.

Bittermints · 21/11/2018 22:59

That was very well done.

OrchidInTheSun · 21/11/2018 22:59

Brava Stella. Compassionate, kind and honest

drum123 · 21/11/2018 22:59

'I think they're lost, and they're being led.'

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/11/2018 22:58

so interesting that she's focussing on transboys and transmen

really unusual

CoolCarrie · 21/11/2018 22:57

The young woman on now is interesting to hear.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/11/2018 22:56

so sad that Kale went ahead with a mastectomy

MsJeminaPuddleduck · 21/11/2018 22:54

This really is amazing TV and Stella the documentary maker is wonderful.

Bell jar footage horrendous - had seen some of it on line but only Julie B coming up the stairs, this was far worse. And the sheer entitlement! Miranda Y's comment was very astute I think on this

BedraggledBlitz · 21/11/2018 22:54

Awful.

JillyArmeeen · 21/11/2018 22:53

I'd only ever seen julies video from that event, on the stairs. Didn't realise it had been such a long protest, or that they had forced their way in before hand.
I'm really glad that's been shown.
Well done to Stella for a well made and comprehensive programme.
I have been wondering all day if it would go ahead, I'm guessing Channel 4 must have come in for some flack over it.

MrsScamander · 21/11/2018 22:53

Watching the footage of the protests at that meeting has shocked me. I've seen the vitriol on twitter and pictures of protesters but seeing it on video just highlights the lengths TRAs will go to to shut women up.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/11/2018 22:52

it was that jam jar video that finally flipped me over into some light activism - leafleting and such. it shocked me rigid, but as you say, it looks much worse here.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/11/2018 22:51

I think a lot of people will be surprised and shocked at that behaviour

YY. I follow this all quite closely and had been shocked at the snippets I had seen of what happened there. But to see it all like that - the hatred is scary. That's what I hadn't got before how much the TRAs actually hate women who dare to speak

WaveThoseHands · 21/11/2018 22:51

This needed to be on television.

CoolCarrie · 21/11/2018 22:51

He is probably thinking WTF ?!

CoolCarrie · 21/11/2018 22:50

No wonder the police man is smiling!

BouncingOn · 21/11/2018 22:50

Bloody hell. I've been naive. I had no idea it was that bad.

Doyoumind · 21/11/2018 22:48

So glad they are showing this. I think a lot of people will be surprised and shocked at that behaviour. And how on earth can you shout at someone who calls you 'she' having no fucking clue you are a 'they'?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/11/2018 22:47

woah

this is the Jam Jar event isn't it

'my pronouns are they you cunt'

i remember that charmer

Destinysdaughter · 21/11/2018 22:46

How brilliant that the intimidation at the Bristol meeting is being shown on mainstream TV!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/11/2018 22:46

I am really shocked and so glad that channel 4 have covered the Bristol thing so comprehensively

Callmejudith · 21/11/2018 22:45

This is amazing TV. Fancinating to see the TRAs in action

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