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Stella O'Malley, Trans Kids: It's Time To Talk

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drum123 · 21/11/2018 20:06

Apologies if there is already a thread about this. Channel 4, 10.00 tonight. 'Stella O'Malley considers the huge rise in numbers of young people embarking on gender transition, through the prism of the gender identity issues she experienced when she was a child.' According to The Times no TRA groups were prepared to contribute to this . Stella feels this may be because she was a tomboy as a young girl, (even insisting she was a boy until she hit puberty), and is now a confident, mature woman who believes that nowadays she would be pressured to go down the transition route. Sounds like it will be worth watching.

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OldCrone · 21/11/2018 23:52

Can you see them if you log out, Orchid? I can see them and I'm not on twitter.

KayM2 · 21/11/2018 23:52

I've watched the programme. ( I'm a 70 plus year old TS woman, of many many years standing. A really worthwhile programme; I've recorded it so I will watch again. Very much needed, a programme like this. I thank ( insert god of choice) that I am not one of the people who have to make assessments as whether each case should go forward, should go for blockers, or will fade away. It is obvious, I think, that there is something or things behind the spike in young would be transitioners; contagion seems likely to be in there somewhere.

As someone said, it was good to see the effect on a family/ spouse. TBF, they were making the case that if someone doe snto "transition" young, it may come back to bite them and others around them at a later date. The family concerned ( and most of us know them or of them) conducted themselves with admirable dignity.

OldCrone · 21/11/2018 23:50

They're lost and they're being led

Find a confused and unhappy teenager and offer them a magic solution for their teenage angst. Why can't more people see this for the grooming it is?

OrchidInTheSun · 21/11/2018 23:48

I can't read most of them because I'm blocked 🙄

OldCrone · 21/11/2018 23:46

I'm not on Twitter, can anyone repost a few bits on here ?
You can see a selection of tweets here - you don't need to be logged in.
twitter.com/hashtag/transkids?src=hash

HandsOffMyRights · 21/11/2018 23:46

Brilliant. Those parting words: "They're lost and they're being led"

A handful of spoilt rich males who all like Jess Bradley are currently complaining.

God those awful students. So sorry for the adult academics who are faced with these entitled brats. Miranda Yardley's observations were spot on.

AspieAndProud · 21/11/2018 23:46

Sparkly feathers have been ruffled.

windowWAG · 21/11/2018 23:44

It was biased crap. Sorry. She should leave this sort of thing to Louis Theroux. He manages to stay focused somehow.

HandsOffMyRights · 21/11/2018 23:42

I like this one. If only the host was an expert in queer theory.....

Stella O'Malley, Trans Kids: It's Time To Talk
arranfan · 21/11/2018 23:41

Jack Appleby in righteous wrath mode:

twitter.com/jackappleby/status/1065376289635426310

Andy Lewis:

The @Channel4 documentary on now about Trans Kids is very engaging and sympathetic. Astonishing that the main players acting to promote policies on this issue refused to taker part. They want to deny at all costs that this is a nuanced debate that needs to be had.

twitter.com/lecanardnoir/status/1065373876610351104

Janice Turner praising it:

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1065342743231283200

AngryAttackKittens · 21/11/2018 23:39

Thanks for showing everyone who you are, Sienna!

LikeDust · 21/11/2018 23:36

I am feeling quite churned up after watching that.
It was touching to have the focus on females.
Also the protest at The Jam Jar was pretty shocking. The protestors seemed so young and easily led. I'd be so embarrassed if they were my kids.

Coughed · 21/11/2018 23:33

I am saying this with love, the Hayton family are very loving, I feel they all deserve outside support.

My heart breaks for all interviewed and for feminists trying to talk.

The whole thing is tragic and I am disgusted at the MPs especially and males interrupting, disrupting Heather today and previously.

Justhadathought · 21/11/2018 23:33

Julj70:

Nobody is saying women are defined purely by their genitalia - no! We are all human beings and our identities coalesce around various different things, and shift and change over time. Our bodies ( or genitalia as you put it) are what makes us male or female, men or women.

AngryAttackKittens · 21/11/2018 23:30

The public needs to see TRAs in action. Not just on Twitter, though that's bad enough - in the flesh. Once you do it changes everything, and makes it much harder to deny the actual gender dynamics going on.

pombear · 21/11/2018 23:30

Repeal

Just the norm, men cannot deal with women talking about anything they don't like. Even if those 'men' idenitfy themselves as being 'women'.

Instinctual reaction - throw accusations and accusations.

(Women: Sigh. Get on with talking reality)

OrchidInTheSun · 21/11/2018 23:29

I think focusing on transmen was really clever because it made it completely personal for Stella and also took the heat out of it. How anyone can call that transphobic is beyond me. Well, basically as she said, you're not allowed to ask any questions.

Telling how none of the woke protesters were actually trans as far as I could see. They were a bunch of middle class 'queer' students

drum123 · 21/11/2018 23:28

Have emailed Channel 4 to thank them for airing this.

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RepealTheGRA · 21/11/2018 23:26

Condescending? I found her very compassionate and willing to listen.

pombear · 21/11/2018 23:26

Just relflecting on this programme again, and thinking about particular contributors.

Debbie - was great to hear from you. But I'm sure you, because you're an obviously empathetic and intiuitive contributor, may want to encourage your wife to external support networks right now? Something didn't sit right for me about her contribution - I may be really wrong in that interpretation, but Debbie's wife, hope you're getting the support you need ongoing to deal with the issues discussed in tonight's programme.

psst - transwidow thread? for support?

Bittermints · 21/11/2018 23:25

IW saying something about Nazis. Several saying how awful it was but in next sentence they couldn't watch it.

RepealTheGRA · 21/11/2018 23:25

That was a very good documentary. I really liked Stella.

I’d seen some camera phone footage from Bristol before, but hadn’t realised exactly how bad it was. That was truly scary.

julj70 · 21/11/2018 23:24

Sorry, wrong thread.

Doyoumind · 21/11/2018 23:24

Twitter is acting as if Stella is completely anti trans and missing the actual question she was asking about early transitioning. That wouldn't fit their narrative of course.

Callmejudith · 21/11/2018 23:23

Nice

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