Stella O'Malley, Trans Kids: It's Time To Talk

Happy dappy my understanding is that puberty is about hormones being released and triggering physical maturity, it doesn't impact mental maturity

Huge thanks to you Stellaomalley that’s the best thing I’ve watched on this subject. I hope every teacher in the country watches it and also parents.

You handled a difficult and complex subject brilliantly.

I too felt incredibly sorry for Debbie’s wife and children and hope they have have the support they need. If your lurking

I have every expectation it will be nominated for next year

I very much doubt it, the fact this even made television is amazing considering the push from above.

If this programme prevents even one child from becoming an unwelcome statistic and makes a few people with influence realise that running a social experiment on British children in the 21st century is never justified however much politically correct ideology says it is then it will deserve the BAFTA I have every expectation it will be nominated for next year.

Stella well done for a brilliant informative programme-groundbreaking in this heated climate!
One thing I personally don't understand is this-if a child goes on puberty blockers, then cross sex hormones etc etc, does that mean they never actually go through puberty and their brain stays that of a pre pubescent child? If anyone can clarify I'd be very grateful.

Langcleg; it wasn't bullshit that I wrote ( though I'm sure I often do), but a genuine question. I did not know that he was connected with the Beaumont Society. Though I do know that there are varied views on the BS in transgender areas, so he could still be an " instinctive denier". I don't know. Plenty of transvestites are; the splendidly entertaining Grayson Perry, for example. Who I met once, at an Art College. he was very encouraging and nice with the students, but thinks people like me are TVs, really. But anyway, I was enquiring, not laying any laws down. Do you know what Gender Clinic the guy in the documentary worked for for 10 years? Not CXH, I think.

That was a brilliant show. I felt so sad for all of the young people on the show who believe that the transcult offers a cure for their body insecurities. She mentioned the link between autism and gender dysmorphia which was good. I think more people need to hear about that. Well done Stella

Thank you Stella.

Oh Stella.

You are so brave. You came across as warm genuine and passionate. This is a hugely important documentary I think. I don't know how you had the strength to do it with the levels of toxicity out there. But you did so and

I've sent my comments to channel 4. Xxx

Stella, I wrote my post before seeing you had come on this thread. So I wanted to say thank you. I was truly impressed.

You should win awards for that programme as you found exactly the right approach and covered so much in an hour on a subject so easy to make appear imbalanced.

Aside from the good this will hopefully do it was superb TV. Congratulations.

Ooooh great!

Did you feel happy like that it was it deeper? Did you feel dysphoric with your body?

Sorry for the questions; I'd just like to know more about your own experiences.

The problem is with any sort of dysphoria is that it is all encompassing at puberty. I had issues with how I looked (if I'm honest, society presented me with blonde tall girls as the thing to aim to be. I started to feel second class as a short brunette as a child. I had extreme issues with the skin on my face, and then how I looked which really affected me throughout puberty.)

Good post there lass.

Stella,

You did an amazing job! Very well balanced, and based on personal understanding and compassion.

I''m so pleased that Channel 4 commissioned this programme.

Waves at Stellaomalley

It was such a good film - and could easily be a series. And I'm glad it focused on transmen.

(Seeing proper footage from the Jam Jar in Bristol was astonishing - and in a small way I'm glad that "my pronouns are they, you cunt" has made into national broadcast)

That was the most important programme on British TV so far on this matter.

The contrast between her objective approach and even handed and genuine empathy over the complex issues involved and the utter twaddle we heard (apart from David Davies) from our 'finest' MPs in the parliamentary debate was genuinely scary.

Such a shame the presenter is not advising the government rather than Stonewall and Mermaids who seem to have hypnotised the government into thinking their mantra is reality.

Also fascinating, as the third transsexual to post here on this programme, to like them be impressed by it. As are other transsexuals I have seen discussing it.

Whereas all the transgender Twitterati seem to have become angry and upset.

They should be upset - but not for themselves and the crimes against their rights - but for the kids who are caught up in their ideological war games they are playing with gender identity but that is potentially creating a horrendous medical scandal that could be the 21st century's thalidomide.

What should be happening now is that someone make the MPs putting together that response to the GRA consultation for next Spring immediately invite the presenter in for discussions and hear what she thinks they should be doing about the GRA and the casual attitude these MPs have to the medical issues surrounding trans matters.

Because I know I would think her views are every bit as important for them to hear as the dogma of Stonewall and Mermaids.

KayM2.

I wouldn't say the conclusion of the programme was that there is much more gender dissonance then previously thought. To my mind there is a very strong social contagion aspect to it. how else would you explain 17 children in one school all coming out as 'trans' at the same time?

The trans 'perspective' has been pushed very hard in recent years and it has now become an 'accepted' way to try to deal with personal angst, sexuality and identity issues.

I'm always hearing TRA's saying things are "not as simple" as people are making out; that it is all"very complex." You're right personal identity and how it forms is often nuanced and complex - for everyone - trans or not; however, one thing is very simple indeed - and that is sex. You are either male or female; man or woman - no matter what you feel in your head.

The issue for many TRA's is that they seem to think that being male or female is somehow restrictive of personal identity. It need not be though - you can perform, express, dress in any way you like - and not have to conform to gender stereotypes unless they feel natural for you.

hi, yes, I had complete freedom to be whoever I wanted to be in my childhood, thankfully. I'm a big fan of Mumsnet but I changed to my real name for this (:

My concern too.

May I ask if you had freedom to be who you wanted to be as a child?

I'm a teacher of children with autism and sen. The only child I've come across who is 'trans' just wanted that freedom to be.

They later decided they were happy with their sex (with help).

Many pupils with autism I've taught over the years have a huge reliance on YouTube. YouTube does often worry me.

Hi Stella, The film was brilliant and you were brilliant too. My biggest concern has always been the kids and you said everything that I would have wanted to say if I had a platform. Well done again and please keep in the spotlight x

Hi Stella, thank you for this film.

I want to add more but mum stuff to do!

Thank you for making the film, Stellaomalley and welcome to FWR!

Hi Stella here, I'm thrilled that the film has sparked debate and thanks for the good wishes from those who enjoyed the film. Yes wouldn't it be great if we left gender far behind and focused on being human?

The other conclusion, that gender dissonance is much more common in our society than any of us dreamed of, now THERE is a can of worms.

What exactly is gender dissonance? Here is something that Debbie Hayton posted on her blog. This bit I think is particularly important.

But I was a male that always struggled with the expectations and restrictions that society placed on me because of my sex. Struggled was an understatement. The incongruence between how I wanted to relate to society and how society insisted on relating to me caused my mental health to collapse. I transitioned to escape. I changed my body and I changed my relationship with society. But I didn’t change my sex.

I just struggle to understand why someone has to change their body in order to relate to society in the way they feel most comfortable. This is a problem with society and the way we treat diversity in people - society appears not to accept diversity, so people have to change so that they can fit in and live the way they want to.

Gender ideology is regressive. We should all be working towards making society more accepting of non-conformity and diversity. Putting people in gender boxes is the opposite of this.