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ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:03

Ht (twitter.com/DaveDavidDave_/status/1064836550448619522)

There's £700k, for example, for 'Living Gender in Diverse Times'

This features a motley crew of gender cultists:

Helen [redacted] (credited only as 'Helen', and with the email adress of press@mermaids) (she's on twitter as @mimmymum and has an adoring audience of diaper fetishists & furries as she says how great puberty blockers)

Meg-John Barker (partner of Edward Lord, non-binary freemason & big-time TRA), previously featured here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversity-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker

Anna Carlile - gender cultist lecturer at Goldsmiths and Mermaids advocate

Justin Hancock - is a double act with Meg-John Barker (above) megjohnandjustin.com/about-us/

Ruth Pearce - Leeds Uni gender cultist ruthpearce.net/

Emma Renold - professor of childhood studies, promotes transgender identity to children www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5932855/Transgender-muffin-challenge-young-people-reads-like-satire.html

Vanita Sundaram - intersectional feminist type, busy retweeting tweets from TW calling for Rachel Stock to be fired for transphobia twitter.com/VanitaSundaram

Liam Tielemans - works for some sort LGBT charity. Strangely, the emphasis seems to be on the T. www.lgbtconsortium.org.uk/node/3308

Strangely there does not seem to be any non-kool-aid drinkers among their number.

It's not really surprising this crap becomes law & public policy when there's a never-ending stream of cash, public (as here), semi-public (like BBC CiN), and private (Lloyds, etc.)

Follow the money.

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Needmoresleep · 17/12/2018 12:30

Yes. If I find a way to weave in 'proper research rather than unsubstantiated woo' I will. In particular I was going to have a look at collaberators and their relevence. My initial (unresearched) concern is that it will be just more money to feed the gender industry. However questioning their decision making might just make them defensive and produce a stock responce.

The Government is worried about curbs on freedom of speech on campus. Many academics will be unhappy about the way the PC brigade can behave. (And not just GC academics. There was that well respected UCL scientist who was forced to resign a couple of years back because of some unguarded casual remarks.) The ESRC will be aware. And wont want their own reputation tarnished before a tough, post Brexit, funding round.

BrienneofTERF · 17/12/2018 12:16

Thanks needmore, I think the esrc’s got it wrong here. I don’t recognise the academic need for even more ‘knowledge’ on this minority subgroup, not from the likes of Hines who will spin her unsubstantiated woo woo as fact.. Confused

Needmoresleep · 17/12/2018 11:08

[email protected]

Needmoresleep · 17/12/2018 11:05

Chief Executive of ESRC (though both organisation and job title may have changed).

I plan to write suggesting this an important but controversial area. I welcome research. However given the unacceptable pressures on some academics working within the gender field, it would be useful if the ESRC could emphasise the importance of academic freedom and professional respect.

[email protected] Prof.

OrchidInTheSun · 17/12/2018 09:43

I would be rather pissed off with Sally if I were in a leadership role at Leeds. I would say she's in danger of bringing the university into disrepute

BrienneofTERF · 17/12/2018 09:40

Am beginning to wonder if the University of Leeds need to start engaging in some damage limitation excercises..
Also the ESRC better be sure they engaged in due process when funding this crap given the current single digit success rates in funding applications in the discipline. Angry

WeRiseUp · 17/12/2018 08:14

They do look a bit drunk. People are allowed to get pissed in their own free time but she seems a bit naive about how twitter = announcement to the world. Not a good idea to call other professionals 'snakes'.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/12/2018 08:11

Sounds like floundering. Sadly she will be on the ‘wrong’ side soon enough and will see how unpleasant and scary people can be.

GrungeSponge · 17/12/2018 08:10

Seriously was Sally drunk? I mean it's not very professional is it??

ChattyLion · 17/12/2018 06:31

Wow those tweets. Sad
Professor Hines is really upholding academic values right there. Leeds University must be so proud of her.

SunsetBeetch · 16/12/2018 21:58

Nasty tweets from Sally. Seriously was she drunk??

ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks
ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks
Melanippe · 16/12/2018 20:58

If you read further into that Twitter thread, Dr Hines shows her true colours for the world to see.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 16/12/2018 16:45

This is good. The more people who see how utterly batshit trans ideologies are the better.

Fallingirl · 16/12/2018 16:22

Nobody innocently tweets that no one without an anti trans agenda uses ‘female’ anymore, and claims that ‘sex’ is now irrelevant. If those claims were truly the case, there would be nothing worth tweeting about. Let alone writing publishable articles about.

Both claims are contentious andshe nows it. Which makes it seem idiotic to claim that theyhold true for the general population.

I can see that there might be an article in the argument that we should abandon sex as a meaningful category. Which is very different to the claim that everyone already have.

She presumably tweeted that for the purpose of provoking people likeJane Clare Jones and Rosa Freedman. When she didn’t get a response from RF, she decided to call her a snake.

I would not expect this behaviour from a professional academic, or anyadult for thatmatter.

terryleather · 16/12/2018 16:12

The mothers know!

LangCleg · 16/12/2018 13:35

My new year's resolution will be to call out any organisation that persists with this silliness.

I seem to have spent all of 2018 writing annoyed emails!

HerFemaleness · 16/12/2018 13:05

SH is an excellent example of a stupid clever person as my dear mother would put it.

Mine would have said, intelligent idiot.

WeRiseUp · 16/12/2018 12:37

Ta

WeRiseUp · 16/12/2018 11:52

Just seeing this thread for the 1st time- only on page 2. Wow.

Dragon3 · 16/12/2018 11:42

YY Vicky.

I can't help cringing for her. Seriously, since when were academic rebuttals conducted via character assassination on Twitter? Does she have no actual evidence and arguments to present against Prof RF's work?

OTOH it's good she has the lack of professionalism to put this nonsense out in public. Sunlight being the best disinfectant and so on.

Floisme · 16/12/2018 11:42

I hadn't realised the word 'female' was considered taboo. I must remember that Wink

VickyEadie · 16/12/2018 11:14

Academic at one of our redbrick, Russell group universities says on social media (for all the world to see) of another similar academic "RF is something else, she’s a slippery snake and I’m not having it".

Have I woken up in a world where primary school children are appointed to these posts now?

Dragon3 · 16/12/2018 11:14

"No one without an anti trans agenda says female any more. People say women."

So doctors, biologists, millions of other scientists have an anti trans agenda?

Galvantula · 16/12/2018 11:08

"no one says female any more" 😂

I'm also thinking WTAF??

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