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ESRC sending millions of pounds to Sally Hines / Leeds Uni to research gender bollocks

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:03

Ht (twitter.com/DaveDavidDave_/status/1064836550448619522)

There's £700k, for example, for 'Living Gender in Diverse Times'

This features a motley crew of gender cultists:

Helen [redacted] (credited only as 'Helen', and with the email adress of press@mermaids) (she's on twitter as @mimmymum and has an adoring audience of diaper fetishists & furries as she says how great puberty blockers)

Meg-John Barker (partner of Edward Lord, non-binary freemason & big-time TRA), previously featured here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversity-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker

Anna Carlile - gender cultist lecturer at Goldsmiths and Mermaids advocate

Justin Hancock - is a double act with Meg-John Barker (above) megjohnandjustin.com/about-us/

Ruth Pearce - Leeds Uni gender cultist ruthpearce.net/

Emma Renold - professor of childhood studies, promotes transgender identity to children www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5932855/Transgender-muffin-challenge-young-people-reads-like-satire.html

Vanita Sundaram - intersectional feminist type, busy retweeting tweets from TW calling for Rachel Stock to be fired for transphobia twitter.com/VanitaSundaram

Liam Tielemans - works for some sort LGBT charity. Strangely, the emphasis seems to be on the T. www.lgbtconsortium.org.uk/node/3308

Strangely there does not seem to be any non-kool-aid drinkers among their number.

It's not really surprising this crap becomes law & public policy when there's a never-ending stream of cash, public (as here), semi-public (like BBC CiN), and private (Lloyds, etc.)

Follow the money.

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Almondcandle · 20/11/2018 16:38

And a sociologist would know that who gets research funding and why is highly political.

spannablue · 20/11/2018 16:34

ESRC ethics esrc.ukri.org/funding/guidance-for-applicants/research-ethics/

spannablue · 20/11/2018 16:33

So you don't want theses topics to be researched? You just want people to make statements about stuff without gathering evidence?

'Gender' research isn't just about trans people. It's about looking at and deconstructing the stereotypes that constrict our daughters and prevent them from playing football or doing maths A level.

Sociologists have a job. That job is to hold a mirror up to the world. While everyone is rushing around, sociologists have the time and the space and the responsibility to watch, to listen, to collate and to analyse. It's sociologists who are picking holes in the Universal Credit system; who gathered the data which ushered in the Sex Discrimination Act; who deconstruct institutional racism in schools and who develop training for the police around better working with Traveller, Gypsy and Roma people.

Who gets the funding and who doesn't? Well, it involves a massive blind-peer-reviewed filtering process. You have to have lots of experience looking into these areas- not just have an opinion. 'Being gender critical' isn't enough. You have to back up your opinion with evidence that's published and peer reviewed.

TheMinorityEngineer · 20/11/2018 16:29

Does this ESRC have a MORAL COMPASS or some sort of ETHICS framework?

Can someone please please write to them.

littlbrowndog · 20/11/2018 16:15

But if the trans men are pregnant aren’t they the same as pregnant women anyroads
Why special research ?

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 16:08

Oh and porn, obviously.

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 16:08

Apparently the Living Gender in Diverse Times is to research why people aged 16-24 believe so strongly in gender bollocks, sorry I mean "explores young people’s (16-24 year olds) understandings, experiences and practices of gender in contemporary UK".

Any connection between this experience and taxpayer-funded jobs as a research assistant for a 16-24 year old to research this nonsense is purely coincidental.

Here's a bit on Damien Riggs, whose salary in Australia (!) as best I can read is being part-paid by the ESRC to research pregnant men.

4thwavenow.com/2018/03/05/whos-gaslighting-whom-susan-bradley-pediatric-dysphoria-expert-weighs-in/

His Twitter feed:

twitter.com/DrDamienRiggs

is just a massive circle jerk of people getting paid public funds in various countries to 'peer review' people getting paid public funds in other countries to put out stuff about 'genderqueer feminism', videos about trans children, and so on.

Oh and of course Dr. D is also an advocate for commercial surrogacy. theconversation.com/commercial-surrogacy-in-australia-rethinking-notions-of-natural-31423 He gets public cash (Australian) to research 'gay men's experiences of surrogacy clinics in India'.

All this stuff, gender bollocks, womb sale, prostitution advoacy, it's all heavily funded and the people are often one & the same.

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breastfeedingclownfish · 20/11/2018 15:57

Is this the one big group of people lobbying for funding and then paying themselves for research?

QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:56

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JamieAndPukka · 20/11/2018 15:55

Autistic children are being abused for this lot to fund a career, mortgage and pension pot? Oh please James Kirkup or someone else write about it!

ProfessoressWoland · 20/11/2018 15:54

I'd like to see the research proposals. Are they available by FOI, I wonder?

breastfeedingclownfish · 20/11/2018 15:54

Ah, got it, she's here

living-gender.leeds.ac.uk/members/advisoryboard/

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:53

Haha lol these cheeky beggars

"As this is an international project, long-haul travel is necessary."

Yeah I bet it fucking is.

There's new laptops (£900 a piece, wtf?) among lots and lots of other gravy.

It looks like Sally Hines' salary is paid to to the tune of 11.25 hours/week.

lssi.leeds.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Pregnant-men-an-international-exploration-of-trans-male-experiences-and-practices-of-reproduction.pdf

Absolute piss-taking bullshit.

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:44

Because of course it has to be

'An International Exploration of Trans Male Experiences' in pregnancy.

A shitty, provincial, West Yorkshire-based exploration of Transmen just wouldn't hit the mark would it.

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:43

There's publicly funded jobs for people all over the place with this shit.

E.g., gtr.ukri.org/projects?ref=ES%2FN019067%2F1

"Project consultants will organise two health practitioner training events, which will be co-coordinated with Public Health England. Key target audiences here will be midwives organisations and general practitioners. Dissemination events with health professionals are planned in the UK, US, Australia, Poland and Italy, and are costed into the project's broader impact strategy."

So that's (apparently?) nice tax-payer funded trip to Australia, the US, etc. to teach midwives how to handle pregnant men.

And of course more public cash for the doctors & midwives being paid to be trained in this nonsense.

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scepticalwoman · 20/11/2018 15:40

Good grief! And yet these people lecture women about daring to use our own money to ensure the that removal of the the rights of women and the safeguarding of children is stopped.
Some massive gravy train.

I really hope that some journalist is joining up the dots of all these massively influential people paid from the public purse to pursue their own beliefs at the expense of the rest of society.

Melamin · 20/11/2018 15:40

It all seems to be about funnelling public money. The charities that support it are the same. The money, power and ideas all seem to move around in circles.

Bittermints · 20/11/2018 15:39

Just to add, universities get funding from government to cover infrastructure but the funds needed to pay staff to do research all come from grants these days. Hence the prevalence of short-term contracts for postdoctoral workers and research assistants. They are usually funded from specific grants and when the grant ends so does the post.

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:38

You can check grants here gtr.ukri.org

E.g., Kathleen Stock has got nothing, £0, zero, nada, for being gender-critical. James Caspian, nothing. Michael Biggs, nothing. (Though they have grants for other things completely unrelated to gender)

People are given millions of pounds to produce nonsense, while those who stand up to it only risk their careers and have no financial gain.

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Bittermints · 20/11/2018 15:36

Economic and Social Research Council, I think. Analogous to the Medical Research Council.

What's it going on? Well, all that verbiage doesn't write itself, Bowl! Committee meetings, ethics applications, focus groups, reports, surveys, lengthy interviews with research subjects (qualitative research, takes ages to do and then to transcribe and analyse, I believe), glossy leaflets and posters, financial reports to the funder, time to write it all up and get it published, conference presentations and posters.

(I'm not an academic but used to work in university admin. My colleagues would have killed for grants of this size and could have made really good use of them, with immediate benefit to society given the work they were doing.)

Hefzi · 20/11/2018 15:34

The ESRC have changed the way they do their funding relatively recently, and basically, you need to bid as a consortium to have the best chance of getting funded. They've always been a bit subject to the whims of fashion in terms of research, but this is a new low even for them Angry

JamieAndPukka · 20/11/2018 15:34

It's like the charity and professional help industry funded by the tax payers to distract whilst the upper class become more privileged. A career creation scheme to fund the middle-class, provide virtue cookies at the expense of the actual vulnerable who are kept in their place.

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:32

"ESRC is part of UK Research and Innovation (UKRI), a new organisation that brings together the UK’s seven research councils, Innovate UK and Research England to maximise the contribution of each council and create the best environment for research and innovation to flourish. The vision is to ensure the UK maintains its world-leading position in research and innovation. For more information visit the UK Research and Innovation website.

UK Research and Innovation is a non-departmental public body funded by a grant-in-aid from the UK government"

"ESRC's total budget for 2017-18 was around £202 million. At any one time ESRC supports over 4,000 researchers and postgraduate students in academic institutions and independent research institutes."

So it's public money going to already-tax-funded uni departments to 'research' nonsense.

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QuietContraryMary · 20/11/2018 15:31

Bowlofbabelfish, I think the money can cover salaries.

There's a guide here:

esrc.ukri.org/funding/guidance-for-applicants/

Also in general I can only imagine that 'research' funding is what unis are all about, and can only be good for your career. £1.2 million for projects by Sally Hines in the space of 9 months just from the ESRC, and that's just two projects.

If you consider that these people's livelihoods literally depend on this crap then of course they will push it.

To the best of my knowledge, despite their claims there's really no money at all in being gender-critical. (Oh, someone raised a crowdfunder for £20k? Wow! You and your colleagues' salaries are prepaid for the next several years)

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