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Sally Hines on Twitter re Woman's Hour

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Silentlyobserving · 19/11/2018 21:27

This tweet is not going as well as she perhaps expected: twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1064473613049442304

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arranfan · 19/11/2018 23:14

She's deleted the thread!

That is unfortunate.

Deleting a thread because it hasn't gone your way is not a strong indicator that you're willing to engage in critical self-reflection about your performance.

doublethink · 19/11/2018 23:14

I can't believe she's just deleted it?! Surely part of being an academic is responding to critique of your theories or assertions?! And if you can't, then it perhaps shows that those assertions have sone holes (rather large ones in this case)...

arranfan · 19/11/2018 23:13

And the thread has been deleted.

I recommended that she should take a beat, not hit delete

This is no way to engage in critical self-reflection about your performance nor to show that you're willing to consider the audience for your contribution to an important cultural and social topic.

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2018 23:10

I was about to post that too. Yep, the whole thread deleted. Couldn’t cope with all the rationality, obvs

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Silentlyobserving · 19/11/2018 23:10

Aw bless, she ran away when confronted with reality

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Arkengarthdale · 19/11/2018 23:09

Can't see it!! Haven't yet had a chance to listen to the thing this morning but if anyone had screenshots for a flavour of arse handing bigly I'd appreciate it Grin

Serfisafleur · 19/11/2018 23:05

She's deleted the thread!

Anlaf · 19/11/2018 23:03

I dunno herfemaleness, so many of us started our journey by getting our arses handed to us and thinking "those ladies are really quite cross, and their questions are hard" and then two months' frantic googling later....

(admittedly in my case the arsehanding was in the relative privacy of a popular parenting website) you'll never find that old username!

Come on Sally lass- join us on FWR!

Janie143 · 19/11/2018 23:03

The Twitter thread has gone Wonder why?

LassWiADelicateAir · 19/11/2018 23:02

The twitter page seems to have gone?

Vegilante · 19/11/2018 23:00

One of the tweets said all SH had were "fragments of arguments" but I think even that is too generous. As is typical with transgenderists, all she had were slogans & catchphrases drawn from dogma learned by rote. How can an academic not understand the difference between argument and assertion?

And WTF does she mean by "realness"?

BTW, here's the broadcast for those who haven't heard it:

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00017q2

theOtherPamAyres · 19/11/2018 22:50

How on earth did this batshittery become mainstream?

Hines made no sense. None. It was as though she had a superficial knowledge of some things and a complete misunderstanding of other things like interesex conditions. It was crazy.

Weezol · 19/11/2018 22:30

Mr Snodes
@mrsnodes

No one does an implied “FFS” like Jane Garvey

Indeed.

cockBlocker · 19/11/2018 22:25

I can't tell if she knows she did badly or if she thinks she was 'set up' in some way, by y'know, being asked to answer logical questions. 'Internally screaming' - so not able to put together a coherent verbal argument internally either then. She sounded like a teenager.

Allthebubbles · 19/11/2018 22:23

The Twitter comments sum up everything I thought listening this morning.

arranfan · 19/11/2018 22:18

So, the ever-instructive Jane Clare Jones (MN's own @LadyPrincesexual ) has a thread and is promising forthcoming detailed notes:

twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1064503773047992320

littlbrowndog · 19/11/2018 22:16

What the sally will never reflect.
She will keep taking her wages and her pension pot and not give 2 fucks
After all she has the money.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/11/2018 22:15

Oh, no I'm not him, that sounded like I was implying hrs me.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 19/11/2018 22:14

Maybe he's already here.

terryleather · 19/11/2018 22:14

Oh the comments are^^ divine.

I'm keeping makes not a shitting gram of sense - love it!!!!!

HerFemaleness · 19/11/2018 22:14

Anyway Flowers to Sally, you did your best but perhaps it's time to engage properly with the feedback you're getting.

Nah. She's a true believer. She'll double down and dismiss all nay sayers as nasty bigots.

rightreckoner · 19/11/2018 22:12

Can we tempt Jack over here for a little MN love?

I know that sounds really creepy and I’m sticking with it Grin

Anlaf · 19/11/2018 22:11

it's never a good feeling for anyone to have to reflect on quite why you failed so comprehensively to explain your ideas. It can be quite crushing so you're typically well advised to take a beat, reflect on what you're hearing and then take an honest assessment as to whether some of that criticism has some merit

Mumsnet is bloody lovely - some good, compassionate advice on dealing with a public fuckup.

I did like "The main problem is that you have no rational position to defend or promote, just the subjective assertion of a Grimoire of Magick Spirits. None of it is objectively real."

Anyway Flowers to Sally, you did your best but perhaps it's time to engage properly with the feedback you're getting.

VickyEadie · 19/11/2018 22:10

That this woman gets to spout her faith- based (because it's based purely on belief) claptrap to impressionable young people at a university is shocking

TheMinorityEngineer · 19/11/2018 22:09

It is clear why they have always demanded #nodebate

They know they are talking nonsense.
The cognitive dissonance as they speak with their word salads is very apparent.

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