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Sally Hines on Twitter re Woman's Hour

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Silentlyobserving · 19/11/2018 21:27

This tweet is not going as well as she perhaps expected: twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1064473613049442304

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Italiangreyhound · 20/11/2018 16:55

Oh Sally was bloody annoying. What a load of annoying rubbish!

borntobequiet · 20/11/2018 16:47

I never heard of transgifted, but I would have thought it meant identifying as gifted. I could do that.

waxy1 · 20/11/2018 16:40

I think we’re going through a crazy period, like tulipomania.

kesstrel · 20/11/2018 16:23

God, she really is pushing the West=bad and East=enlightened feminist paradise isn't she?

It's not even that - it's just mindless post-modernism: you have to throw a bit of "anti-colonialism" into the mix wherever you can.

All these references to "in the west" end up insulting to non-western cultures by representing them as a monolith, as though we're the only ones who think sex is binary. In reality, there are a handful of cultures who allow a third gender (although I bet they mostly don't think of them as a third sex), and the rest see sex as binary just as we do - and their scientists most certainly do.

aroundanothercorner · 20/11/2018 15:40

Transgifted definition from the urban dictionary: ...It is a positive term and can be applied to anyone who enjoys to challenge cis gendered normatives, whether it be in frame of mind, in presentation...

Does this mean anyone who challenges gender labels is gifted? I fancy being gift tagged and not labelled cis.

hellandhairnets · 20/11/2018 15:34

*"soon we will have mug shots of them all and what they have done on the internet"

No, not sinister at all...*

Indeed. Very Pol Pot.

Mumfun · 20/11/2018 15:18

Aroundanothercorner. in that gdaworkinggroup document we find:

Esben Esther is a father of two, grandparent of five and presents as transgifted. Grin

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 20/11/2018 13:10

What parents who have sterilised their kids? Their mugs are all over the media anyway because they are so bloody pleased with themselves for.

hackmum · 20/11/2018 12:18

"soon we will have mug shots of them all and what they have done on the internet"

No, not sinister at all...

aroundanothercorner · 20/11/2018 11:11

The copy list stems from this tweet
twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1062650459687698432

Interesting to follow the link & consider the $$. Sad how many of the bios say supporting children to transition.
www.gdaworkinggroup.com/who-we-are/

Needmoresleep · 20/11/2018 10:44

Thanks aroundanothercorner.

There is something spooky about the 'soon we will have mug shots of them all'

I wonder who else might be in the rogues gallery.

The copy list is curious. Not obviously the nutty end of the TRA spectrum.

Dragon3 · 20/11/2018 10:39

Thank you for posting the original tweet Kat.

aroundanothercorner · 20/11/2018 10:28

@needmoresleep
twitter.com/anonytrace/status/1062796830797430784

Bowlofbabelfish · 20/11/2018 10:26

yes you did struggle

BOOM Anne Ruzylo you genius Grin

BertrandRussell · 20/11/2018 10:24

"Hectoring"? Seriously?

hackmum · 20/11/2018 10:16

Kat - it's kind of hilarious they thought it was Jenni Murray, as Jenni has such a distinctive voice. It's almost as if they've never listened to Woman's Hour before.

Also, as we all know - but presumably they don't - Jenni has been banned from hosting programmes on this particular issue.

BettyDuMonde · 20/11/2018 10:13

Damn. Missed it.

NotMeOhNo · 20/11/2018 10:09

God, she really is pushing the West=bad and East=enlightened feminist paradise isn't she?

KatVonGulag · 20/11/2018 09:57

And talking of cowardly deletions. This rude person deleted this tweet solve screenshot so they could pretend they thought Jane Garvey was the te*f all along.
This is from the woman's hour twitter feed.

Sally Hines on Twitter re Woman's Hour
Bittermints · 20/11/2018 09:56

Worrying find there, Needmoresleep. Guilty of wrongthink, then, like so many others.

KatVonGulag · 20/11/2018 09:53

orchid thank you! A great read.

Here's the original Sally Hines tweet and my favourite response. All I got sorry. The overwhelming majority of responses were in a similar vein.

Sally Hines on Twitter re Woman's Hour
Sally Hines on Twitter re Woman's Hour
TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 20/11/2018 09:52

Twitter feels soooo different these days.

Needmoresleep · 20/11/2018 09:52

No idea how to do screenshots. However as I was reading the whole twitter link with my jaw dropped, I found this rather shocking post just beyond the Womans Hour' comments. I dont know how Twitter works, as the same post did not appear on Anonytrace's account.

Anonytrace @anonytrace · Nov 14
Replying to @mimmymum @MyWebDoctorUK and 9 others
Perhaps you should take a long hard look at this bag of shit. She is Equality
Director at the GMC, the very person who will cover up anything that happens to
you as trans, including sexual assault , soon we will have mug shots of them all
and what they have done on the internet pic.twitter.com/x24qfAreEv

 1  

The link is to a picture of a woman, presumably the GMCs Equality Director.

The nine others, out of interest, though I assume they may not have asked to be tagged, are:

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BertrandRussell · 20/11/2018 09:51

I’m not very active on Twitter, but I got more likes than I have ever had before (still not very many) simply asking Hines what she wanted to say that she felt she didn’t get across.

RetiredNotExpired · 20/11/2018 09:49

^twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1064473613049442304^
Looks like she's deleted her original tweet: "Page does not exist"

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