NHS managers called in a handwriting expert to track down opponents of transgender-friendly toilets

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No, dont take facilities away from people that fought for them because they need them.

So people phoning up in need in an emergency are not to be called the name that they ask for, that will reassure them, but will have a made up title supplied by a group who claim to be so oppressed that nobody must ever go against their agenda.

Sums this whole topic up really.

I'm horrified by this. There is enough casual misogyny and sexual harassment in the ambulance service already without shoving the door wide open to allow more.

Us ghoulish TV watchers know that the ambulance service answers the phone by saying 'ambulance, is the patient breathing?'.

God it's so non inclusive isn't it. They need to get with the times. I suggest:

'ambulance, is the patient non binary?'

Agree lused, if I'm in the middle of an emergency, I'd much rather the call handler didn't fuss around staying on the right side of gender orthodoxy.

Off topic, how on earth do you say Mx, is it Mix?

The world is going mad

Can we all start again?

Disabled toilets are everywhere and ‘unisex’ so why not say to people to use them instead of building special gender neutral toilets?

I have it on good authority that handwriting experts can't do squat if you use the other hand.

I wouldn't put it past them in that case to make everyone write with their wrong hand to find the culprit.... Good tip though

Nic's quote was great! Really emphasised the disconnect between Jules and her staff.

Yeah in the south west ambulance service women were propositioned and forced to watch porn. I know that there are serious issues of bullying in another ambulance service too.

It is terrifying though the level of threat to people who don't comply, it's a real witch hunt.

That's a lot of people committing the crime of bravado.
If anyone is thinking of using bravado themselves, I have it on good authority that handwriting experts can't do squat if you use the other hand.

Boiled down to its essentials, this story is about one person deciding on everyone else's boundaries, and forcing change on them. Then getting stroppy when people object in the only way possible.

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Handwriting expert says it was Diane. Diane flat out denies it. Diane fired anyway but takes them to an employment tribunal who agree handwriting experts sound like a load of bollocks.

Sometimes you really have to check that it's not April 1st, when you read something so batshit crazy and entitled.

And calling in a fucking handwriting expert. So they’re wasting even more precious NHS resources on this bullying crap.

Money no object, obviously.

And how much did these hand writing experts cost??

“faced down bravado” translates to “ignored and belittled genuine concerns”

You can see in action how this is being achieved though. The person in the article is both “head of emergency operations centre training at London Ambulance Service, and joint head of its lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender network”

People are seeking training positions then using them to push their personal agenda.

That people are ripping the signs down and defacing them is a sign of deep frustration, allied with a feeling of powerlessness. That printed signs are being put up, rather than permanent official changes being made over a suitable timeframe suggests this is being shoved through at speed and invites vandalism.

They’ve started a battle and are trying to beat people into submission, rather than discussing the topic and attempting to reach a solution which best serves the wider community.

"In addition, the service’s emergency operators have been told not to call people “sir” or “madam” and to refrain from using “Mr” or “Mrs” even if 999 callers request it."

How dare they. What are they going to call people the ? Why ask pronouns and refuse to use what the caller requests? An emergency really isn't the time for the discussion.

Also I think Sir/Madam is slightly authoritative. Which I'm sure can be useful when giving instructions in an emergency.

I work in an area of the NHS where everyone has to use changing rooms. I honestly cannot imagine what would happen if they tried to make them 'gender neutral' aka mixed. Well I do actually people would just refuse to use them and the consultants, who are the only people NHS management take any notice of, would through an absolute hissy fit until segregated changing was reintroduced.

If there's a problem, the answer is not to make women's spaces mixed sex.

There's a kind of collective insanity at work

Great quote from Nic Williams

Whether women have to share their private spaces with men may not matter to Jules Lockett, but it does matter a great deal to other women, including clearly to many of her own staff. This is a classic example of someone trampling on women’s rights and safety and congratulating herself for it

and Jules Lockett sounds derranged

we’ve had one of our directors who has collected these signs, collected the handwriting and asked for a professional analyst to compare that handwriting with the handwriting they used on their patient report forms

try making that stand up in an employment tribunal love

What a load of old shit. Up the defacers! The sheer arrogance is astounding. Steering members of the public away from their preferred names!!! How very fucking dare they. Because in an emergency it is highly important to get gender neutral pronouns right before saving someone's life.