NHS managers called in a handwriting expert to track down opponents of transgender-friendly toilets

Lockett comes across as an absolutely horrible person. I am guessing what happened is she was playing to the audience at the Gendered Intelligence conference and forgot other people would disagree about some fundamentals and so not be so impressed.

Upstartcrow I wasn’t suggested that disabled toilets should be taken away from people with disabilities. I was suggesting that people who want to use gender neutral toilets could use them.

Well there's an excellent and totally appropriate use of limited NHS funds! Who care about all those people needing operations when there's graffiti to investigate?

It's just bullying isn't it? And Jules Lockett has so little emotional intelligence / self awareness that they actually boast about forcing men and women to share showers and toilets. And boast about using taxpayer's money to mount and investigation into those protesting about this.
The thought of an ambulance worker with no respect for other's boundaries is really frightening.

Countess if I was of a tin-foil-hatty turn of mind, I'd think there was a drive to set up a three tier hierarchy - men, Stepford bot- like performers of femininity without the messy bleeding and pregnancy and milk production, and breeding stock.

I normally try to go for cock up rather than conspiracy as my explanation for bad stuff happening in the world, is it's usually the saner explanation, but sometimes the details really do pile up in an uncomfortable way.

children Yes I know unions will not support women in this situation. But they should not support the use of junk science.

'These types of policies will force women out of certain professions. I can't help but wonder if some workplaces have seen this as a great opportunity to make it difficult for women to take on roles.'

I am absolutely certain there will be misogynists at the top of these organisations supporting the changes for that reason.
If you are a bit of a dinosaur it's a win win because it allows you to look woke and modern while actually turning the clock back.

Excluding women in the name of inclusivity. It's The Day Today, isn't it?

Civil disobedience, including graffiti, has a long history and is an honourable and effective way of fighting against unjust laws and petty and ridiculous regulations.

There's some very good books out there on the psychology of what are known as authoritarian followers - the sort of people who somehow internalise the childhood message that "you must do what teacher says" to the extent that it becomes their prime moral directive, overriding all other moral rules and indeed the capacity for independent thought. They are the people who help societies sleep-walk into becoming dictatorships.

When did bravado become a crime?

Or does bravado not mean the same thing nowadays

These types of policies will force women out of certain professions. I can't help but wonder if some workplaces have seen this as a great opportunity to make it difficult for women to take on roles.

After all, women (the childbearing kind) take maternity leave, ask for breastfeeding areas, get periods that might cause us to take days off. Most employers say that given a choice they would pick a man over a woman to avoid these things.

Now, here is the perfect chance to make the work environment so unfriendly that women won't even apply. And we can't complain that it is a sex-based hate crime, because there is no such thing.

Lockett insisted staff had no right to be concerned about the changes.

How can a person insist that staff have no rights to their own feelings ?!

Loving the fact that posters are saying they expect the perpetrators of the ‘criminal damage’ to be punished, while totally disregarding the concerns of those people who don’t want to get changed with those of the opposite SEX. Fuck the females, we mustn’t upset the boss. 🙄

abacucat said
"Handwriting analysis is junk science. The unions should be all over this."

See my post at 9:49 above.

You've got two hopes and one of them's Bob.🤔

If you're calling an ambulance, for yourself or another person, you're hardly likely to be in a frame of mind to debate or insist on how you're addressed. So the LAS will then be able to say, if challenged, that patients don't have a problem with this.

A 999 call requesting emergency assistance clearly being the ideal time to educate the caller on the use of preferred pronouns
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That Head Of Ambulances or whatever her title is is just a misogynist bully.

But if I did graffiti / criminal damage at work - even if I were protesting something manifestly unreasonable / inappropriate - I would expect my employer to take steps to identify the perpetrator and take disciplinary steps.

Or perhaps the employer could look at why so many people feel strongly enough to deface printed signs?

Handwriting analysis is junk science. The unions should be all over this.

I suspect this is on the same level as 'razor blades under stickers'. Just a way to spread alarm and force everyone else to do what they're told.

But if I did graffiti / criminal damage at work - even if I were protesting something manifestly unreasonable / inappropriate - I would expect my employer to take steps to identify the perpetrator and take disciplinary steps.

Who the fuck do LAS think they are to lecture 90 year old Mrs Jones about how she should be addressed? Blood boiling now enough to turn me into a black pudding.

Handwriting analysis is junk science. The unions should be all over this.

They also say sometimes they need to know the birth gender for treatment

I would refuse to use a mixed-sex changing room. Lockett clearly lacks all empathy if she thinks that just because she doesn't personally care about getting changed in front of men, nobody else will.

Also WTF is that about not addressing 999 callers as Mr or Mrs even if they've asked you to? That's not even trying to avoid unintentional 'misgendering,' that's just being a twat to someone who is already in a very stressful situation.

I’ve had to use changing rooms at work - secure airlock style bio security rooms, accessed via changing and showers. So compulsory changing a couple of times day.

The thought of having to share that with men is horrendous. I honestly don’t think I would be able to continue working there .

Imagine the opportunities for predatory men. You know Jenny from the lab is having to enter those rooms at 10am and 3pm every day and will have to shower and change. No escape.

CallingDannyBoy said.....

"I think the changes to changing rooms and making them mixed sex is chilling - is that across all ambulance stations? Surely there must have been some consultation and union involvement? Is it just in a small area? I find it hard to believe it hasn’t received more attention? The quote from Fair Play is spot on."

Re the amazement at union involvement.

Something that most people around here for some reason have a difficulty understanding is that if the left are involved in any way, be it your union, your local councillor, your MP,. your work colleague, they are going to be with the program.
Intersectionality was a great idea when you were in the tent pissing out.
Well get your head round this...you're now outside the tent being pissed on.
The sooner we all realise this the better.
Know Your Enemy.