Netflix Sabrina and Trans Character

Oh poo I pressed send too early...what I meant to say was that the other search suggestions were amusing:

After reading this I googled the character because I've never watched the series ..
riverdale.fandom.com/wiki/Theo_Putnam

"Theo was born as Susie Putnam in Greendale, but identified as non-binary from a young age. He would later identify as a transgender boy."

I stopped watching Sabrina in the second series because I think it's so very harmful for girls to mutilate themselves and to be held up as role models to gender non conforming children. I will not celebrate this.

I just felt huge sadness reading that article for that reason prodigalkittens. I self-harmed as a teen so I found it eerie reading them talking about scarring and in the next paragraph about being a Unilever self-care ambassador. It brought back those huge up and down and spinning around feelings. I hope that they have peace now but I wish no more girls would find themselves feeling they have to cut away at their bodies to feel free of stereotypes.

From the article about the young person who acts in Sabrina.

My hygiene was abysmal when I was a trans guy because I thought guys didn’t wash their faces — but I like washing my face, I like having clear skin. Is it a female thing to want to feel comfortable in your own skin? Noticing that cage I was putting myself in helped me get to the place where I am now: I'm non-binary. I don't feel like those things should affect me. I don't want to steal from myself anymore for the sake of upholding this image.

This is so sad. It's just stereotypes all the way down, and moving from one set to another. I mean, it's great that the young person in question now seems to have realized that they don't actually have to follow any of those supposed rules and can just like what they like, but why did they have to have their breasts removed and call themselves non-binary to do it? Where did the prison they'd built for themselves in their own head come from? Did none of the adults in their life growing up ever tell them that it was OK to just like whatever they happened to like?

No...

She becomes Theo and insists she’s a boy so yeah she becomes trans

Made me cross

Susie isn’t trans she’s non-gender confirming. She’s happy to be referred to as male and female and neither.

Here is an interview with Lachlan Watson who plays Susie/Theo, talking about their own personal journey from lesbian to trans man to non-binary, and how it influenced the series. Trigger warning: images of top-surgery scars, possible glorifying of scars and pain. www.refinery29.com/amp/en-us/2019/05/232331/lachlan-watson-top-surgery-scar-interview

I'm bumping this old thread because reading it now is very sad - since Series 2 has come out and to my huge disappointment, Susie is in fact...Theo. And tries out for the boy's basketball team and gets on, thanks solely to Sabrina using magic to make her amazing at basketball.

It's so, so disappointing that the show would take a character of the only girl in the series who doesn't conform to girly stereotypes AND is bullied and abused by her father and other boys at school for not being girly enough, and instead of being proud of being a girl able to dress and be how she wants, oh no in fact she was a boy all along.

Ah, I was watching and initially was pleased to see a girl who was not particularly feminine as a main character.

How disappointing that they might be taking the line that that means she isn't really a girl.

I stopped watching after the seventh episode. I loved the dark tone of the show but it didn't really hold me. The very contrived feeling to Sabrina's mortal school friends was one of the reasons I found it a bit tedious, amongst others.

For anyone who is impressed by this show having a trans or GNC character, don’t be so easily bought. This was nothing other than a box ticking exercise. Same with their uber feminism. Watch the show again and count how many times 15 year old Sabrina is naked. Teenage orgies with lots of writhing girls in underwear, but the sex scene between Aunt Zelda (not a teenager ) and father Blackwood? Cut away at the fully clothed kissing. Massive sense of the male gaze in this show. Huge! Where are the mothers for Harvey, susie and Roz? They have fathers but no mothers. Where are they? Do they not have mothers for reasons that are important to the show but they forgot to tell us or are mothers just not actually that necessary to include?

I think it’s a very good thing when the media features characters like this who don’t fit the usual norms. There are so many kids out there who are a bit different and it’s good for them to feel that is ok.

Xpost OP!

She is referred to as 'young man' by her friend's gran and calls herself that.

Yes and she positively beams with joy at being called it. Not just the once either. The gran has “the cunning” which is the ability to see things that aren’t visible to others. The gran sees susie’s true feelings about how she identifies. They didn’t out and out label susie as trans but that’s were it’s headed. Definitely.

But- I am annoyed that Dorothea could easily be a female-identifying woman, straight or lesbian, who was rejecting the restrictions on her sex at the time. Not necessarily trans.

It was very briefly explained in the show that Dorothea had to wear men’s clothes for safety. She had to pretend to be a man. Lone women were not safe when she was alive.

The gran calls her 'young man' because not only is she old fashioned but she can't bloody see properly! The demon calling her 'boy-girl' is not because she's trans. Likewise the bullying. It's stupid taunts,like you sometimes get in school, over someones appearance.

Some people are so bloody trans obsessed it's insane. I can only hope Santa brings you a grip for Christmas!

The friends gran is actually blind by the way
suzie isn’t Trans, she’s just not presenting herself in a way that was seen as typically female. She’s a girl though

I think she’s a girls that’s gender neutral. Apparently they were going to portray the character as a trans boy (a girl who Ids as male) but decided to take the story slowly. I do like the fact that her tormentors are all male, so true to life.

She's not trans ffs!