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Aimee Challenor interview on Disability Arts

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StarsAndWater · 16/11/2018 07:29

Interesting interview on Disability Arts online with Aimee Challenor about being trans and autistic, and the supposed barriers put up for autistic people.
A number of of reasonably sensible quotes from NHS England, I thought but they're dismissed fairly quickly in the article.
Still, it's good to see that doctors are aware of autism as a correlating factor and taking this into account even if they're being put under pressure not to.
They also mention Aimee's history with the greens but nothing to do with the reason for Aimee's suspension.
I guess they either didn't google Aimee before publishing, or are dismissing it.
disabilityarts.online/blog-youre-not-trans-youre-autistic

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Melamin · 17/11/2018 10:57

Thought you did. Wink The whole thing is a bit of a mind-fuck Hmm

Binglebong · 17/11/2018 00:06

NHS treatment I mean, they're both to do with gender identity. Tavistock.

Binglebong · 17/11/2018 00:01

By now I'm so tired I have no idea what I mean. The gender identity one.

Melamin · 16/11/2018 23:19

autism support and GIRES should be accessed side by side and working together.

Did you mean GIRES, or GIDS?

KatVonGulag · 16/11/2018 23:03

Interesting. I was just reading aimme was diagnosed with oppositional defient disorder when aimme was a child.
I'd not heard of this until I came across the Tara (?) Wolf character. The person that likes punching 60 year old ladies.

Seems like an emerging trans activist theme.

Quite the get out of jail free card

Binglebong · 16/11/2018 21:52

There is one element that I agree with in there - autism support and GIRES should be accessed side by side and working together. The two elements will each influence the other. But the first year at least of GIRES needs to be questioning if someone really is trans or if other parts of their life is influencing their feelings on the matter.

Binglebong · 16/11/2018 19:20

I completely agree. I just didn't think the scope of the investigation would be that big. I'm very pleased it is.

OrchidInTheSun · 16/11/2018 19:18

IICSA will examine the case of David Challenor and how he was able to continue being a political agent for Aimee www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3409394-IICSA-will-examine-the-case-of-David-Challenor-and-how-he-was-able-to-continue-being-a-political-agent-for-Aimee#82193592

It doesn't matter really how high they were. Someone who has been charged with a crime of this severity should not be involved in politics.

Binglebong · 16/11/2018 19:12

I think it's worth noting that Aimee & Dad are being investigated at the very highest level, in the form of the Westminster child abuse inquiry.

Where did you find they're being included in the inquiry? I didn't think they were high enough in the party.

Materialist · 16/11/2018 18:51

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HamiltonCork · 16/11/2018 18:08

Trying to be charitable here but The best thing Aimee Channellor could do for themselves is to withdraw entirely from the public sphere (including social media) and get proper mental health support.

breastfeedingclownfish · 16/11/2018 17:25

Datun

Your comments made me think of this.

Time for an adaptation perhaps.

rightreckoner · 16/11/2018 15:24

Why was my post deleted ? They campaigned with their father knowing he had been arrested. These are matters of fact I believe. They also actively seek ways to block ‘terf’ views. These are not opinions as far as I know.

QuietContraryMary · 16/11/2018 15:18

"After she referred to her husband's 10 year old victim as a "lying little slut"."

My understanding of this is that the victim confided in a third party who told, and is the one being called a lying little slut here. However I do believe that Tina Challenor testified on David's behalf in his trial.

BettyDuMonde · 16/11/2018 14:40

I hope Aimee is able to access appropriate social services support. I can’t get past the opening photograph - I don’t think Aimee is coping.

There seems to have been a significant decline in self care from the letter-to-parliament picture in 2017 until this one, from earlier this year:

Aimee Challenor interview on Disability Arts
Gileswithachainsaw · 16/11/2018 14:17

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to question if someone with a history of not being entirely forthcoming with the truth is actually qualified to make sweeping statements about how our neuro-developmental disability works, either as a qualified expert or a person who actually has said disability

Especially when said revelation comes after some big scandal....

Seems awfully convenient most the time

Danaquestionseverything · 16/11/2018 14:14

WTFisAGleepglorp

Ahh that Lily. I was a tad confused. Yeah no thanks. I suspect she will be trying to maintain a low profile due to recent events.

SporadicSpartacus · 16/11/2018 14:04

I wonder if it would also be unfair to call into question Rachel Dolezal’s ethnicity?

Self ID autism is a thing - it’s huge on Tumblr, and is massively harmful to those of us with an actual diagnosis. Claims like Aimee’s do actual, real world harm to autistic kids - imagine what that idea would do to a well meaning but dim parent with a GNC child they wish wasn’t autistic.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to question if someone with a history of not being entirely forthcoming with the truth is actually qualified to make sweeping statements about how our neuro-developmental disability works, either as a qualified expert or a person who actually has said disability.

AspieAndProud · 16/11/2018 13:58

While it's fine to discuss this interview Aimee Challenor has given, we don't think it's fair to call into question anyone's diagnosis of autism.

Well, I’ll bow out of the conversation since it’s the only thing I am qualified to discuss.

OrchidInTheSun · 16/11/2018 13:52

That article is basically saying that you're less likely to experience some of the more debilitating effects of autism if you identify as transgender.

Perhaps I should tell DS that - sure he'll be thrilled Hmm

happydappy2 · 16/11/2018 13:47

OP really interesting article, thank you-gives clear insight into Aimees mind.....Aimee says 'being autistic does not affect a persons legal rights, right to vote, or right to freedom of expression. So why are trans autistic individuals finding it a barrier to self identification?

Well in the real world It's a safeguard to try and ensure that no one who is autistic makes a huge, life changing decision unnecessarily.

PilarTernera · 16/11/2018 13:43

So as I read it Aimee want the NHS to treat her, but thinks it is wrong that they look into her mental health and diagnostic background.

Same. In the world I inhabit, it is good practice for a doctor to look into a patient's medical history. Making a note of her ASD diagnosis is the doctor doing their job well.

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 16/11/2018 13:41

Cross posted. Yes. Lily Madigan.

Datun · 16/11/2018 13:34

What? Like Lily Maynard?

Do you mean Lily Madigan?

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 16/11/2018 13:34

Sorry. Meant Lily Madigan, not Maynard.