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How do you deal with PMT as a feminist?

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RagingWhoreBag · 14/11/2018 23:43

I’ve always flat out denied that I suffer with PMT, as I honestly haven’t ever felt that it was a big deal for me. Perhaps a little more tearful or irritated thank usual, but nothing that I would admit to.

Potentially ex “D”P has a nasty habit of calling me out on it when I get pissed off about something during the “time of the month” and it gives me the fucking rage, which then proves his point that I’m over reacting.

How do you, as a feminist, accept your biology without buying into the bullshit that women are emotionally unstable (and therefore historically disadvantaged and dismissed)?

I’m trying hard to find the balance between accepting that perhaps I’m a little more forthright at certain times (as we all are when hungry, tired etc) but that I’m not a raving lunatic who doesn’t know what she’s doing/saying.

Have women bought into the notion of PMT despite it doing them no favours in the eyes of men society?

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BlooperReel · 16/11/2018 09:49

@RagingWhoreBag yes it can be particularly bad if he hypos, it's like dealing with an angry, irrational drunk person. He is 5 stone heavier than me, so trying to 'control' him for want of a better word is almost impossible when he gets like that. He can no longer throw my PMT 'mood swings' in my face because I get a bit snappy, as it's not a patch on him in a hypo.

QuentinWinters · 16/11/2018 09:44

All this just reminds me that we need fewer doctors claiming the female body is a toxic mix of raging hormones, and more doctors looking at the natural cycle of a women's body and how to address issues like mood swings, or the physical consequences.
Exactly. Well said.

RagingWhoreBag · 16/11/2018 09:01

Thanks Lilly. I was actually considering taking the pill to try and straighten out my hormones if that’s an issue. However, then he’d be pissed off if I lost my sex drive and I’d be pissed off at having to put up with any of the other lovely side effects, all to stop me being a bitch for one day.

To be fair, if the relationship weren’t such a pile of dog poo anyway maybe I wouldn’t get so pissed off. Think it’s time to make the decision with my head not my heart Sad

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LillyoftheCentralValley · 15/11/2018 23:51

sorry about the typos.

LillyoftheCentralValley · 15/11/2018 23:50

All this just reminds me that we need fewer doctors claiming the female body is a toxic mix of raging hormones, and more doctors looking at the natural cycle of a women's body and how to address issues like mood swings, or the physical consequences.

I didn't have mood issues, but I did have irregular and lengthy periods. The ob gyn said "oh, we can fix that" gave me hormones. Ended up with moodiness, and heavy heavy flows with accompanying with recurrent anemia.

That and relationships are hard. Best to you raging whatever happens.

RagingWhoreBag · 15/11/2018 17:11

BlooperReel - interestingly GP is testing for diabetes as well as lots of vitamins and thyroid etc. I hadn’t realised it could cause mood swings.

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Knittink · 15/11/2018 17:10

I've never suffered from PMT really until quire recently (premenopausal, probably). I totally understand your dilemma OP. But if my dh were to comment, I would point out that my pre-menstrual mood is still more stable than his! Yours sounds like a twat though (sorry).

RagingWhoreBag · 15/11/2018 17:07

Not at all Quentin. I appreciate the advice from everyone, including LTB. We kind of mutually agreed to leave each other after a big PMT row the other night, but then I felt bad for being a bitch to him and apologised. He’s now mulling it over, so I’ve handed him the power and feel a bit shit now. We’ve split up several times before and I think he’s just had enough of the drama Sad . He brings a lot of it himself but obviously he doesn’t see that.

Flowers for you.

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QuentinWinters · 15/11/2018 17:02

misa I didn't mean to imply that the effects weren't real. It just annoys me that normal hormonal fluctuations get robbed off as something that needs fixed.

I totally agree about womens health.

QuentinWinters · 15/11/2018 17:01

Sorry raging I just got angry. I split from DH 6 months ago for similar reasons so I just saw redSad Flowers

RagingWhoreBag · 15/11/2018 14:55

It’s not just over this Quentin, this is the tip of the iceberg. But I guess all the other issues amount to the same thing - his lack of respect for me and my reaction to that lack of respect. Sad

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VMisaMarshmallow · 15/11/2018 14:29

Quentin I don’t think it’s as simple as objecting to women’s hormones being treated as a medical problem- for many of us they are a medical problem. I have pmdd and the hormone changes during that time make my pain conditions, dislocations and attention span all much worse. Other women have prementstrual psychosis, pnd, post natal psychosis, or other hormone problems like pcos or endometriosis that effect exclusively women. These are very real problems that do not get taken seriously enough. There’s also a lot less funding allocated to how medication effects women. We already get way too little recognition or support for women’s health problems so we really need more recognition of how women’s hormones can negatively effect our health. What we don’t need our feelings dismissed by ‘that time of the month’ but pretending that women’s hormones can’t cause damage to physical and mental health harms many women also.

QuentinWinters · 15/11/2018 13:37

Well he’s taking some time to consider whether he still wants to be in a relationship with me at the moment
Fuck him. Seriously. LTB. How dare he?

RagingWhoreBag · 15/11/2018 13:14

I do think there’s something in the idea that (some) men’s time of the month is all fucking month long. I bite my tongue a lot of the time but maybe just sometimes I get fed up of holding things in.

Well he’s taking some time to consider whether he still wants to be in a relationship with me at the moment (and I’m also doing some serious considering too) so maybe this is all irrelevant, but hopefully it will help me to make better choices next time.

Thanks for all your viewpoints on it.

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Racecardriver · 15/11/2018 13:10

Well some women do actually go mental, it’s called PMD. I know someone who has it. She is s very reasonable, highly intelligent woman most of the time but on about three days of her cycle she turns into a raving lunatic with anger management issues. I get really down about three days before my period starts. I just cry my heart out. The rest of the month I am really easy going.

RagingWhoreBag · 15/11/2018 13:09

Sounds like DARVO to me. Or at the very least deflection.. I told him to look up darvo - he replied “yeah I probably won’t”. I guess you can’t reason with, or appeal to, someone who uses Darvo as a tactic. It shows an utter lack of self awareness doesn’t it.

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rememberatime · 15/11/2018 13:07

It's always useful to have a good understanding of how your mood changes as the month progresses - that way you can expect the inevitable.
However, I also tend to think of the week when I am irrational and weepy as the normal me. Who says that it isn't? and that the other three weeks when I am being lovely and relaxed, is my abnormal state.

That way you can point out that you could very well be irrational all the time - you just choose not to be (not the other way round).

QuentinWinters · 15/11/2018 12:52

He got a formal warning at work recently for being aggressive to a new employee, who subsequently left, so basically he bullied someone out of their job. And yet it’s my moods we need to worry about.

Flowers whore
Sounds like DARVO to me. Or at the very least deflection.

QuentinWinters · 15/11/2018 12:50

It's ill-advised for any man to ever mention PMT. There is literally no benefit to anyone.
True dat

grasspigeons · 15/11/2018 12:04

I point out that I behave like a man behaves all the time for just a few days a month and what a blessing it is I don't behave like a man on all the other days. I don't get tearful just more irritable

GraceMarks · 15/11/2018 11:55

I don't get the moody sort of PMT but I do become really physically clumsy - dropping things for no reason, blundering into walls and furniture, spilling food all down my front, etc. It took me ages to make the link with my cycle, but once I had, I tried to avoid undertaking anything requiring dexterity at the relevant times. Where it's unavoidable, I just have to allow extra time and make myself work more slowly. I never draw other people's attention to this because I suppose I have an aversion to seeming less competent because of my female hormones...

DadJoke · 15/11/2018 11:29

My DW says that it's when she has PMT that she sees things most clearly - a gift from the goddess. The rest of the time she puts up with shit that men wouldn't, and PMT puts things into perspective.

It's ill-advised for any man to ever mention PMT. There is literally no benefit to anyone.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 15/11/2018 11:22

Just seen Nuffaluff's reply. Seems very similar. My DH is very calm and rational too. He has said a few times it feels like weathering the storm.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 15/11/2018 11:20

I feel like I'm emotianlly unstable.
I don't get pains (usually) or weepiness, I get fury, grumpy, angry and irrational which borders on abusive at times.
I've been horrible to DH and DCs, but when it's not there I'm very repentant, but I can't do anything about it.
I'm surprised DH hasn't left me a few times tbh.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 15/11/2018 11:19

The only effect PMS has ever had on me is to make me seriously horny. DH looked forward to it. Same with the last trimester. Couldn't get enough.