Trans Awareness Week

It wasn't my intention to cause irritation but it seemed an apt place to post as we have so many threads about trans people.

Except the transpeople you're referring to like Miranda Yardle, Fionne Orlander, Debbie Hayton know they are not women and don't consider themselves as such. So again, if you're doing this in support of people like them, the feminist chat boards is quite obviously the wrong place and I can't help but see it as intentionally goofy

I can’t believe I supported Lib Dem’s. Publicly!

Me too. I’m 52 and have voted Lib Dem/Liberal in every single election. I also converted my Dh.

They’ll never, ever get my vote again.

Then my apologies PainInTheEar

I am quite happy to respect them. I'm just weary of this sort of thread being posted which puts people's backs up because this is FWR, not the Trans section, and the only reason we end up discussing the trans issue is because of it's intersection and challenge to women's rights. And then when people express that irritation, they get all the self righteous dimwits suddenly finding time to post pointy fingered 'haters!' posts.

It's a hiding to nothing.

Remember miranda, dawn, debbie.

They deserve respect.

I guess we are just a bit raw

Agreed. There are many decent trans people. I've known several, and I see the words of many more.

We get dragged down by the TRAs, we shouldn't forget the decent people.

Trans awareness week does not affect woman in anyway

For once, I actually agree with you, EarlyWalker. And your quoted sentence above does lead me to ask why it would really be necessary to post about it feminist chat, except to create a space for irritation and lecturing of the nasty women?

It doesn't affect women yeah right.

Sorry, those weren’t my words! It was an email I received from the Lib Dems, who I will be leaving after the next meeting where I can raise my concerns about their refusal to listen to women’s concerns.

Sorry, should have made it clearer

This place is getting more and more narcissistic by the day. Trans awareness week does not affect woman in anyway, you’re just being hateful.
Can you imagine this sort of nastiness on A thread for awareness of any other minority group.

Thingybob...this thread should stand as it shows we are not all in agreement, and I for one am fed up with the crap reputation MN is getting.

Sal Brinton....Sbrin? Believe we went to the same school...different years though!

Sorry, not a Lib Dem, but I agree with the post...it’s 2018, we SHOULD be better than this!

Hear hear Thingybob.

I can’t believe I supported Lib Dem’s. Publicly!

They should march me around the town naked, ringing a bell: ‘shame, shame, shame’.

Germaine Bunbury recently Tweeted "Beware threads aimed at garnering screenshots".

Oh the Liberal Democrat view. The party that holds its meetings in a phone box.

Pain, if there really are “few things about which you feel more strongly” then you’re in the wrong job. You really are.

Care to list the actual, factual sources for those wild claims, Pain? Given how there are few things you support more, I'm sure you have them to hand.

I'm sure you also have equivalent stats for women too, naturally.

Public Service Announcement reminder.
Just that.

This year (hell, most in the last few months!)
I was a victim of a hate crime
I have experienced depression
I have self-harmed
I have thought about taking their own life

I haven't quite attempted it. This year.

When is Beyind awareness day?

You're having a laugh aren't you PainInTheEar?
The abuse that women get from the Lib Dems and now you want us to be all lovely and supportive and help you?

Heavy lifting? Not with my knees sweetheart.

As a Liberal Democrat there are few things about which I feel more strongly.

In the last year:

More than a third of trans people in the UK were victims of a hate crime
Two thirds have experienced depression
More than a third have self-harmed
Almost half have thought about taking their own life
More than one in ten have attempted to
The experiences of many Trans people is hard to hear.

And it makes me so angry, because it is 2018 and we should be better than this.

This week it is Transgender Awareness Week.

This week, Liberal Democrats will speak with one voice: Trans rights are human rights.

Will you help us?

Here are three things you can do right now:

Join our campaign: Trans Rights are Human Rights: libdems.org.uk/trans
Add a frame to your Facebook profile, saying that you support trans rights: facebook.com/profilepicframes/
Share my blog post on trans rights: libdems.org.uk/trans-rights-are-human-rights
This summer in particular, our trans friends have had to defend their right to exist. This week, we can do some of the heavy-lifting for them.

Very best wishes to you on Transgender Awareness Week.

Sal

Baroness Sal Brinton
President of the Liberal Democrats.