Trans Awareness Week

I would have much rather see men and women work together in solidarity to address these problems caused by a tiny percentage of the male population.

However, I get the distinct feeling that this is much less appealing to many so called 'feminists' than placing the blame on the 99.9% of men who aren't responsible and having a good old character assassination of the average male.

God yeah, you lot! The offensive thing about a woman being murdered is that people might think badly of Scott and other men!

Someone should write a handy list including the worst things about women being harmed is that it makes men look bad or something. That'd be useful for us to remember to defer more.

No.

I would not be tired at all of an issue being raised about my sex based on the actions of a minority. People aren't making derogatory comments, they are talking about a major issue that affects society as a whole and women in particular. I'd want to think about ways it could be addressed and changed. I'd be thinking a lot about why one sex commits 98% of the issue and the other doesn't. And so on.

What I wouldn't do is go on a forum dominated by the other sex and bash on about how it doesn't matter and it's not my responsibility to address.

But you don't actuary care do you. You just like goading women on these boards. Look at that womans face, think about her kids, her spouse, and take a night off why don't you.

I'm sure that you'd become tired of constantly reading derogatory comments about your sex based on the actions of a tiny (and usually mentally disturbed) minority. It's part of why this board had a bad reputation even amongst many women.

The man who did this is a monster, not men in general, and attempting to use silencing tactics won't stop me saying it. My heart truly goes out to the family of the victim, but like every other male aside from the perpetrator I'm in no way responsible and won't be hanging my head in penance, just shaking it in horror and disbelief.

What's offensive is using this horrific incident as a vehicle to push your prejudices.

Men who enjoy goading women and - especially - about the numbers murdered by their partners each week. They're particularly special examples of their sex.

If you're going to bring up the numbers then you need to be prepared for the possibility that somebody might comment on them. I didn't just go into a thread about the murder of a woman and start coldly number crunching.

It's a very distressing story and it sickens me to the stomach, but it still isn't indicative of the vast majority of men or their nature.

But you don't actuary care do you. You just like goading women on these boards. Look at that womans face, think about her kids, her spouse, and take a night off why don't you.

Here's one of this week's two Scott, as some of us have just been discussing

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46193380

And you want to have a nice chat about numbers.

Bit tone deaf mate couldn't you at least have waited until the conversation had moved on some.

It's wearying that you read these things and say oh well look at the numbers it's not really so bad and anyway what can you do?

Going back to the 'two a week' statistic, I'm sure it was calculated that this represents 0.000006 of men killing their partners (presumably based on the 2011 census results of 31m males in this country, which is now likely to be a fair bit higher).

I'd love to see a total cessation of these murders but how can us men police everybody? Especially when over 99.9% of men don't murder their spouses.

Men love to tell women what feminism means.

But it surely must have a definition outside of 'whatever I want it to mean', even allowing for different schools of thought.

I'm musing on the fact that 'peak trans' is deemed acceptable but 'peak Muslim' is probably not, supporting my point with examples - a point which wasn't originally mine I might add

That's a good point, @ScottCheggJnr. Shame more people can't see what you're actually saying.

Anyway I accept I got it wrong mentioning Trans Awareness here so was rightly told where to go. Lol I also got ridiculed on Twitter by the 'other side'

That's honestly a shame thing

And I don't want a fucking week to think about it, I want societies to value women, to care about violence against us, not to see an attack where there is a relationship as less bad than the same attack on a stranger, for the press not to print reams about what a great man Bob X was after he murders his family, list his hobbies and job and how much he loved his family while they get few humanising details.

I am heartily fucking sick of it.

People still seem to have major mental blocks seeing rape of women and girls over pubery as a crime half the time unless they are also beaten senseless or preferably killed as well and then oh yes that's a crime. But other than that? Not so much. No harm done. And what was she doing there anyway.

I know this is off topic but I am sick to the fucking back teeth of male violence why can't they just fucking leave us alone.

misscockerspaniel I just read about that on the news.

What a terrible story - in front of her children - it's just mind boggling that someone could do that.

The reason there isn't a week focussing on this is becasue it's not interesting or exciting. Women have been murdered by men who know them - their friends, family, loved ones. Acquaintances, workmates. Forever. It is somehow a simple fact of life, a risk that women take simply by existing.

The news every day reports awful tales of men attacking, raping, killing women and girls and I'm heartily sick of it.

RIP Sana Muhammad and I hope the utter bastard who killed her rots in prison.

ToSimmon thegypo;
Actually I was referring to the assessment team at CX Hospital Gender Clinic. They include consultant psychiatrists, natch. And yes, I AM better, thanks to them. Two decades ago I had the necessary treatment to live the rest of my life very much more happily than before I transitioned. And my TS friends are happy too. And still alive, oddly. I don't want to be unkind to you, you just don't know enough about all this to make sensible comment. No harm done. No offence taken, none intended; best wishes.

Permanent? No, often not. How do you explain the people who detransition and say they should never have transitioned in the first place? Surgery might be irreversible, but people often reverse their thinking on whether they’re trans or not.

What, Electron? You are questioning the narrative provided by Our Resident Expert?

I do have to admit that It may be a brain condition, acquired in ways that are not clearly understood, but is certainly permanent. mental illness isn't, in many cases. did make me laugh.

"Oh dear, I think I'll always be a homeless middle ground person."

Anyone who wraps themselves up in virtue-signalling will always have a home with Labour, the Greens and the LibDems.

Don't know about the OP, but I agree with her - I try to see things from both sides....and I'm not Labour, the Greens or LibDem

This was/is supposed to be about recognising the vast majority of trans people who are no risk to women and just want to get on with their lives.

A brain condition?

misscockerspaniel

That's horrendous.

It's often good fun to read the REALLY daft posts; this is addressed to SimmotheGypo; just a couple of things; The medically qualified people who work with transsexual people would disagree with you about it being a mental illness. It may be a brain condition, acquired in ways that are not clearly understood, but is certainly permanent. mental illness isn't, in many cases. Secondly, your siting of the ending of the Greek and Roman Empires is based on 19C misconceptions. The Greek were finally overcome by larger forces from the east. The Western Roman Empire was overcome by the development of ever stronger, more numerous Germanic societies north of the Rhine, and by influxes from Eastern Europe. ( In the east, they had always found the Persians too hot to handle). The Roman Empire did not finally end till the 15C, of course, when Constantinople fell. Being effete and androgynous has nothing to do with it. They weren't. And lastly, the 40% attempted suicide rate is " fake news"; you do know that, I would guess. But otherwise, your posts are bracing and good fun to read. We need entertaining, we TS men and women. :-)

Oh dear, I think I'll always be a homeless middle ground person.

Anyone who wraps themselves up in virtue-signalling will always have a home with Labour, the Greens and the LibDems.