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Pile on by TRAs

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wopbamboo · 09/11/2018 15:42

I am in the middle of a pile on by TRA's on Twitter.

I am not comfortable sharing my anonymous Twitter username on even here yet, but I wanted to ask, when trying to explain your viewpoint on feminism, and you become the subject of a pile on, what do you do?

I am stuck between not giving up, but the more I reply, the more of them pile on.

Help.

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Keeptrudging · 10/11/2018 21:17

I'm on the block list. It's been great, actually. I'm no longer coming across most of the really weird/deviant ones and now it's generally people who I would class as 'well-intentioned but have partaken of much kool-aid'. Then we're generally debating in a fairly polite way, we're never going to agree, but onlookers are getting some information and maybe having a think.

welshbookworm · 10/11/2018 17:12

One of the advantages of running foul of one of the big name TRA's like Aimee Challenor (which I did by accident) is that you get put on a blocklist, whether terfblocker or another one, and after that you don't tend to get pile-ons from those you will never convince.

I was also given a tip for avoiding the worst of the real trolls on Twitter and that is to change your account location (not your visible one if you have one) to somewhere like Germany, which has much stronger social media harassment legislation than the UK. I posdt a lot about Brexit too and it worked a treat.

Noqont · 10/11/2018 14:24

I'd block them op. Seriously they are idiots and not worth the time or energy.

wopbamboo · 10/11/2018 14:13

I see both the doctor and the lawyer have retweeted screengrabs of my tweets today so I must be in the crosshairs. I'm going to go private for a while.

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Ereshkigal · 10/11/2018 13:30

You can also just mute the conversation. If necessary protect your tweets for a day or two. But if you don't engage they will give up trying to goad you.

leyat · 10/11/2018 13:29

When getting a pile-on it's really easy to deal with by changing your notifications to only from those who you follow back, that way you can just ignore it. Obviously not if you want to engage, but if your notifications are blowing up and it's just nasty nonsensical stuff, then I find changing your notifications for a day or two deals with it fine. I also block a lot, if I see a TRA account I just block it now, mainly because they like to mass report GC accounts to get us banned. I used Cultblocker and while it worked well it does block a number of feminists, which was disappointing...

LangCleg · 10/11/2018 13:22

I get piled on by TRAs on Twitter, and have often taken it quite personally. I think about my favourite well-informed GC Mumsnetters and think: ‘I bet this doesn’t happen to them’. It makes me feel like I’m bad at debate.

You can't win because they cannot hear what you are saying. Closed minds, closed ears, closed eyes.

Just state your case to the world at large and, if subject to pile-on, blank it.

NotTerfNorCis · 10/11/2018 13:13

It must be very difficult to debate on Twitter. I've never tried. People make measured, logical arguments only to be torn apart by goady opponents. The thread structure doesn't help either - things get jumbled up and lost. But the worst thing is the character limit.

Weezol · 10/11/2018 13:06

My inner pedant demands that I point out the authentic usage is 'pwned'

wopbamboo · 10/11/2018 12:57

I dont take it personally, I try to keep it factual. I do hope some of the young girls watching the conversation are perhaps seeing both sides of the scenario.

It does feel relentless at times.

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waterlego6064 · 10/11/2018 12:53

This is a good thread. I get piled on by TRAs on Twitter, and have often taken it quite personally. I think about my favourite well-informed GC Mumsnetters and think: ‘I bet this doesn’t happen to them’. It makes me feel like I’m bad at debate.

So, although it’s shit, it’s also reassuring that others get the same treatment.

Some great advice here; I need to spend more time ignoring and blocking rather than engaging, as engaging just makes me anxious and spend days overthinking it.

Yambabe · 10/11/2018 12:50

ODFO idk. No need for that goady shit.

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Idkwtf · 10/11/2018 12:27

Yes don't wrestle with the pig's you just make them stronger and happier

Mrskeats · 10/11/2018 12:26

I just block people. Lots of idiots on twitter

SlowlyShrinking · 10/11/2018 12:25

Yy, ‘dick-centred’ means putting males first, not being a male that actual males are dick centred goes without saying

Keeptrudging · 10/11/2018 09:26

I'm also in the middle of a twitter pile on. I use a different name on twitter. It's very wearying. I amuse myself by looking to see who has liked tra posts. Majority is a bunch of woke students, mostly quite young, a disappointing large amount of them girls. The odd older male transitioner. I would walk away, because it's tedious, but in amongst all the wokeness, there are a bunch of people liking my posts, and some of them are starting to tentatively comment. Got to keep on, much as I want to block, as protecting children from being forcefed gender claptrap is very important to me.

LangCleg · 10/11/2018 09:24

'Dick centred disgrace' ring any bells?

I missed all the drama but to me dick-centred means put males first not has a dick.

HTH.

Badgerthebodger · 09/11/2018 23:55

Foxyliz that is just outrageously horrible. God. Brave and courageous LGB campaigners - oh no, not welcome here, we only want those who are willing to suspend reality

PineappleSunrise · 09/11/2018 23:45

These new TRA arent like the nice old school people we call friends

Yes. I know. Sad

wopbamboo · 09/11/2018 23:41

Oh foxyliz I'm sorry, that's really shit.

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sackrifice · 09/11/2018 23:40

Are the public service announcement saddos on a night out by the way

Why, nobody paying you enough attention?

foxyliz26 · 09/11/2018 23:39

I thought I would never say this , after being out as a lesbian for many decades ,part of the original Gay Liberation front ,worked on gay switchboards,and castigated on many threads for defending Trans rights, both me and my G/F are now no longer going along with the Trans narritive

I visited am out of town gay centre for a meeting this week , and was treated like a stranger in my own country ,the place was overrun with Trans people and others ie straight men claiming to be Trans ,making me and the other lesbian I was with ,feel very intimidated just whilst trying to find the room the meeting was in

we were jostled and cajoled and called a TERF

These new TRA arent like the nice old school people we call friends

LurkingLizzy · 09/11/2018 23:38

Lizzy if you are just going to be argumentative and insulting perhaps you should leave this thread.

Coming so soon after non-transphobic women have been insulted on here, I have to admire your complete lack of self-awareness.

Badgerthebodger · 09/11/2018 23:38

Hi LurkingLizzy sadly I think your nakedly transparent attempt at gaining screenshots has failed but I’ll give you a B for effort as you continue to try and goad.

In this part of the internet we are predominantly concerned with women and girl’s rights. It’s not surprising that nobody wants to engage in a thinly veiled attempt to screenshot posts.

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