Anime, furries, porn. Now one guy gets it

Yes, thanks for that pombear

Just wanted to give a bit of context to the 'furries' thread that Sunset linked to earlier up this thead.

I started that one back at the time of the Challenor trial. The wording reads very strangely as threads were being shut down all over the place for making any links with other Challenor family members.

But the furry/adult baby accounts referred to early on in that thread have significant relationship links with those other family members.

And were linked to a 'furry' account that Aimee made when only 14-ish ie posted by a child who was potentially existing in a very skewed environment, by all accounts.

One of the twitter accounts has had a serious clean-up since, but a short scroll down the other one, feefers, and their retweets of furry/adult baby drawings, is likely to have your radars pinging very quickly. No need to click on any dodgy sites - it's there, in plain sight, on twitter.

It is worth noting that paedophiles' brains do not only react atypically when viewing pictures of infants, but react similarly when viewing pictures of infant animals.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5778266/

That makes a direct link between (the sexual type of) furries and paedophilia rather plausible.

The thing with Anime/Manga - its a foreign culture (mainly Japanese) - and when the culture is so distant to ours, their standards what is acceptable and what is not may be vastly different.

This is true, yes. For manga at least, you can generally trust the age ratings when you buy from somewhere like Waterstones as their buyers are pretty smart and in the bigger stores there's usually someone who knows their stuff and racks the manga with the adult sci-fi and graphic novels. I would be wary when buying from somewhere generic like WHSmiths as their racking (in my local shops, anyway) is definitely dubious; I've seen eg Death Note (14-ish, fairly dark plot though not particularly sexualized) shelved next to Pokèmon as though all cartoons are equal.

As Fish says, anything can be twisted. I love a bit of cosplay but wouldn't go near the big cons as so many of them are rife with handsy men. There's some truly sick fanfic and art out there; and anime comes from a culture where young girls have been hypersexualised for centuries. Be vigilant, get informed and read/watch what your kids are getting into.

I looked at my teen DS’s phone and saw that he and some friends had looked up the definitions of their names on Urban Dictionary. My DS’s definition of his name was posted by a Furry with a cat name and was very dodgy, all about being a cute animal and cuddling, suckling etc. My DH didn’t understand what this meant so I explained it all to him and he was shocked and has definitely peak transed now!

I’m so upset that my DS has been exposed to this already. I haven’t mentioned it to him, I don’t know how, but I do worry about how naive innocent children can get caught up in this.

This thread ought to be in AIBU or somewhere more mainstream

ALL parents should be aware IMO

Just back from a wedding. Most guests I chatted with had very young kids. But one lady I hit it off with had teen daughters. We had an in depth discussion, more related to the sexualisation of young teens, her oldest close in age to my youngest.

Her partner was in the bridal party. His partner for the occasion was calling him “gay” for not showing interest in her. We were gobsmacked. Truly. My mind was blown that in this “modern “ age people could be so homophobic. We both hit the dance floor together. Had so much fun but we both commented to each other that some observers probably thought we were a couple.

To cut a long story short , majority at our table had kids. Everyone was appalled at what is effectively sexualisation of childhood.

The thing with Anime/Manga - its a foreign culture (mainly Japanese) - and when the culture is so distant to ours, their standards what is acceptable and what is not may be vastly different.

Oh yes indeed, Fish! I've seen AO3 (Archive of our own) described as "dumpster diving in the collective subconscious"!
I'm a keen reader of adult fanfic and i'm not too squeamish, but some shit is too disturbing even for an adult. Raping Harry Potter FFS - how sick can one be?

As for furries, I have a couple of friends who are into it. It is a wholesome hobby - cosplay, attending conventions, designing costumes and making art. It is really sad that some sick people can shit on the whole community. And as a parent, its horrible that you don't know what to protect your children from. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a Fortnite or Minecraft fetishists out there somewhere.

OK are Manga and Anime very different?

Er, yes. Manga are comics, graphic novels, usually drawn in black and white and read from the back to the front, from right to left, as that's how the original Japanese is printed. Visit the scifi/ fantasy section of your nearest Waterstones, or the manga section of Forbidden Planet/Traveling Man etc to have a look through. Popular manga for the KS3 crowd are things like Naruto, Fairy Tail, and Magical X Miracle (these are all on my dd's shelf and she first got them from the school library). There's also sports-based manga such as Karate Heat.

Anime is, unsurprisingly, animated material either in short cartoon form or longer films - you may have come across Studio Ghibli films, for example. I'm quite fond of the Chi cartoons which are on Amazon Prime (it's about a cute kitten and her family and has English subtitles).

There is crossover, which causes confusion but actually it's no different from Marvel comics becoming films and cartoons: there are often manga comics of film/tv series, and anime of stories which started as manga. Sailor Moon is probably the most widely known. Video games straddle all three media - Pokémon being probably the best known example of a behemoth of all media!

The industry is vast, and like Hollywood, it's not all suitable for kids. There are frequently age ratings on manga and anime just like there are on Western comics and films. It is, as ever, media in the wilds of YouTube you need to be wary of.

Well at least he got it. I didn't even have to watch much of the actual imagery, to realize that the TRAs that were posting the most obscene, offensive, threatening (and just generally came across as creepy) stuff, disproportionately had anime/furry avatars.

Search for Elsagate to understand more about the algorithms used on YouTube kids. It's pretty shit that parents are led to believe that a kids app is safe when it is not.

This is the (horrible) story I was looking for.

www.abqjournal.com/939308/prosecutors-boy-sexually-abused-at-furry-parties-by-network-of-men.html

I found this while looking for a different Sun article

"His animal of choice: a fox called Gray Muzzle. This revelation was confirmed via Chamberlain’s profile on a website called sofurry.com.

The profile showed a photo of him posing alongside someone in furry garb, and the fact he checked a box on his sofurry.com profile stating that he “tolerates rape,” did not help his situation.

Nevertheless, those in the furry community rallied behind Chamberlain."

www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4692554/weird-world-furry-fetish-adults-dress-animal-costumes/amp

medium.com/@socjuswiz/masculinity-anime-and-gender-dysphoria-8d682abcec54 Haven't read it yet but it seems relevant. SocialJusticeWizard is a good account to follow on Twitter.

Call me cynical but a lot of Manga leads to porn.
I have only seen 2 Manga films, fairly mainstream ones, both watched with a friend's older brother and the second featured young teens having sex with a cum-shot and everything. I was around 15.

^ OK are Manga and Anime very different?

Furry is a sexual fetish but it's also a
"Gender identity" too.

Needmoresleep made a very good post upthread. The internet has many good points but it needs a lot more regulation. Consider what's discussed in this Guardian article, for example. www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jun/17/peppa-pig-youtube-weird-algorithms-automated-content If what this guy writes about stands up to scrutiny it would be most likely to affect preschoolers. Surely all governments can unite to say that we need to protect children? If not, we really are living in the End Times.

Furries thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3345977-Furries

Hentai thread

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3198941-Can-somone-explain-to-me-the-Anime-stuff-and-the-link-to-transmales

Oh yes indeed, Fish! I've seen AO3 (Archive of our own) described as "dumpster diving in the collective subconscious"!

As someone who's been writing fanfic for quite a while, I'd say there are people out there who you definitely look at as an adult and think "this is a pervy adult bloke trying to groom adolescent girls."

Even the most innocent fandom s have been subverted. I've come across some very disturbing Harry Potter fanfiction.

Ah sorry, just seen it's linked on the twitter thread too.

Apologies if already posted (I don't get much time with a 6 month old at the mo!) but Stacey Dooley did a documentary on japan and the school girl fetish. Iirc, paedophilia was allowed in manga comics till very recently (or may still be allowed, memory is hazy.)

Worry a watch and to spread around.

Ahh your phone might be doing the same tricks as mine. An effort type a sentence.

Yes the faux innocence, even worse was one of the “helpful “ replies.

Freaking Pedo Den.

*innocence

Danaquestionseverything

I know, I'm so angry I'm all over the place.

It's the fucking faux innocent as well. It's just foul.