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An Open Letter. Dear BBC

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thecompletenonsequitur · 08/11/2018 17:03

Dear BBC
cc ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5, Sky, Global, etc

We are bog standard people.

The sort of people who do not have playdates with unicorns and mermaids and have not been enchanted by the mind altering capacities of glitter dust. The sort of people who are aware that chromosomes determine sex (even in intersex conditions). We know that the moment that pesky sperm breaks into the egg, sex is set. We know this from biology at school, and we've seen it on the telly.

Some people believe in a thing called Gender Identity. They are entitled to believe in it. They are not entitled to demand that everyone else believe in it.

It is noted that quite a lot of people in the media truly believe that the great unwashed are all on board with 'transwomen are women', 'transmen are men'. Why, only this very week were our jaws dropped by #Jeremy Vine and #Iain Dale.

We have great sympathy for people who are suffering from gender dysphoria. But 'woman' does not equal 'man who´s been getting excited in the dressing up box' (please see Stonewalls' expansive trans umbrella).

We must ask, where are your programmes/dramas/discussions/documentaries about the following?:

Detransitioners,
People suffering from the side effects of Lupron (puberty blocker),
Children having their puberty blocked, resulting in a failure of brain developement and lowering of IQ
Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) and it´s causes (eg childhood sexual abuse, social contagion)
Links between autism and GD
'Y factor' women maintainting male pattern offending rates.
Autogynephilia and paraphilias in many transwomen.
The forgotten 'transexuals' who are not on board with self ID and current trans rights activism.
Why has 'T' non sequitously been tagged onto LGB ($£€)?
(We could go on. Please do get in touch if you need more program ideas.)

It is your job to interrogate all this. Where is your critical thinking? It's embarrassing.

And what mental acrobatics must be performed to believe that transwomen have a place in women's sports? We are already seeing transwomen taking prizes that belong to women. Curiously (or not) we are not seeing transmen achieving similar in men's sports.

Pause woke. Wake up, grow up, wise up. You have been groomed. Just like you were with Savile. You have let them control you. And now you are scared of them.

We remain un Stonewashed,

Bog Standard People of Mumsnet

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Bowlofbabelfish · 11/11/2018 02:07

oopster

Unfortunately this individual has been listened to - now girl guides have this bizarre position where if a female leader has a male child, even a very young one, attending camp they must adhere to strict separation (sensible.) but a male who simply says they’re female escapes those rules. Bit only can they share tents and showers the parents are ACTIVELY not told.

That’s a huge safeguarding loophole. Brought in on the back of advice from someone who campaigned for extreme porn and younger actors in it. And has told young people to ‘get tits early and suck dick.’

I don’t think this is scaremongering- there are serious questions that need to be asked.

Charliethefeminist · 11/11/2018 01:59

Stonewall rules the roost at beeb now. Its like the Stonewall PR arm.

oopster · 10/11/2018 22:23

My comment was posted before the comment about advocating for under age porn actors, but, they can campaign all they like, it’s not going to happen.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 10/11/2018 20:29

I'd be very willing to sign too.

I'm imagining the response on R4 feedback already though. We asked the BBC for a response, but no one was available for comment. ...

It's the satire that writes itself,

Bowlofbabelfish · 10/11/2018 20:25

How so, oopster?

Do you think someone who has campaigned for younger actors to be allowed to make physically damaging porn is a good safeguarding advisor for the girl guides?

Bowlofbabelfish · 10/11/2018 20:24

The drug used in the uk is triptorelin. Same class as Lupron.

Here’s some other things the beeb might like to investigate.

  • the lack of due diligence shown by government that has lead to a convicted rapist being invited to the HoC as an advisor
  • the lack of due diligence that has allowed a Green Party member to continue to use a man accused (later convicted) of child rape and torture as an election agent
  • the lack of due diligence in the advising of bodies such as the nhs, police and schools which has lead to groups who advocate things that include children having autonomy from five years old, confidential disclosure and removal of parental rights being allowed to propagandise unopposed
  • the lack of due diligence which has lead to someone who is an advocate for extreme (physically permanent damage) porn and younger actors in that porn being used as a safeguarding advisor for the girl guides

Gosh I could go on. But that’ll do for now.

oopster · 10/11/2018 19:56

What a load of rubbish!

Scaremongering and ignorant.

GemmeFatale · 10/11/2018 19:36

Am I too late to join the signing party?

littlecabbage · 10/11/2018 19:28

I would give money for a full page of this in a newspaper too.

NotaRealLawyer · 10/11/2018 19:26

The Principal
Consider it signed by me.

Can we make a full page poster of this in the newspapers?
^
This, I'll give money.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 10/11/2018 18:35

Marvellous!

Procrastinator1 · 10/11/2018 17:12

Also gender for sex every time, gender discrimination, gender pay gap, even on woman's hour.
Good letter.

thecompletenonsequitur · 10/11/2018 16:52

I'm doing some homework on this thread BBC Bias to find contact clues.

I have to go again now. Back tomorrow.

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MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 10/11/2018 16:32

I'll also sign.

That Saville comment - ouch! Hitting them right where they'll take notice.

lucydogz · 10/11/2018 16:32

I'm listening to Woman's Hour and grinding my teeth about how little time they spend on this, surely one of the biggest issues facing women today. I'm fact, they refused to come into Feedback to respond to complaints of bias.
Probably the way they want you to go is via Feedback, but why not put something on their twitte r feed.
Oh yes, I'd sign it, in a shot.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 10/11/2018 16:02

I wish I hadn't paid my tv license this year. I'll sign and will boycott BbC and just use Netflix (or similar) next year unless they get less biased.

thecompletenonsequitur · 10/11/2018 15:57

There is also an 'elephant in room' type debate to be had that I would like to add to the 'missing programmes' list:

There is pressure internationally for us to fall in behind the belief that this isn't a mental health condition. From where comes this pressure? Who is behind it?

The eggshells we've all been walking on are crushed now. Our broadcasting companies should not be barred from discussing openly. Nobody should be barred from discussing openly.

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thecompletenonsequitur · 10/11/2018 15:55

Sorry I didn't get back to this yesterday. Was unable to venture out (to use internet) due to extreme weather.

I want to invite the BBC to respond on this thread. Yes I do. So I googled 'contact the BBC'. Still haven't found the right bit. Does anyone have a clue?

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welshbookworm · 08/11/2018 22:37

Happy to sign it too. These things need saying and need saying loudly.

AgnesNaismith · 08/11/2018 19:16

Yes please, add me

AutumnCrow · 08/11/2018 19:14

BBC Children in Need needs investigating.

PositiveVibez · 08/11/2018 19:11

Excellent work. I'll sign.

ABitCrapper · 08/11/2018 19:11

Actually I'd really like some proper impartial investigations into the suicide stats, drug problems, desistance and detransition rates, social contagion - and all those other things that are argued and contested between the various sides.

theOtherPamAyres · 08/11/2018 19:07

Another theme that could be added to the list:

The role of BBC Children in Need grants (£448,000) in the grooming of children towards transition, without parent's knowledge

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 08/11/2018 18:32

I'll sign.