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This has made me start Wednesday off in a real grump - The Pool article

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RitaFairclough · 07/11/2018 09:36

About why we British feminists are BAD...

www.the-pool.com/news-views/opinion/2018/45/Sarah-Reed-British-intersectional-feminism-failure-for-marginalised-women-June-Eric-Udorie

How dare she dismiss my feminism as 'girl power' because it doesn't centre men?

And how can she start off making a very good, very strong point about women being mistreated in prison, and go on to ignore the massive issue that is Holloway Prison having been closed two years ago and the women moved to prisons miles away from their families? AND then talk positively about self-id which would inevitably lead to more women facing abuse in prison?

AND AND - I'm so angry, can you tell? - then she implies that women of colour didn't get the vote in 1918 which is not true. The Representation of the People Act 1918 gave the vote to all women who met a property-ownership criteria. It didn't mention race.

I'm hoping this comes up on the Facebook page so I can comment on it.

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Ereshkigal · 07/11/2018 10:06

I am pretty proud of British feminists actually. We are showing that we don’t swallow any old nonsense, can think and have our bullshit detectors turned up to maximum.

Yep. And agree If we're a lost cause they hopefully don't need to waste their emotional blackmail on us benighted bigots who don't care about men's feelings.

UpstartCrow · 07/11/2018 10:03

Being silenced would result in you being silent. No one can force you to speak out against other women. That would be an active choice you make.

rightreckoner · 07/11/2018 09:58

I am pretty proud of British feminists actually. We are showing that we don’t swallow any old nonsense, can think and have our bullshit detectors turned up to maximum.

The question is why are other people so credulous? Or is it that they are being even more silenced than we are ?

Babdoc · 07/11/2018 09:54

Badly written, badly researched tosh. Yet another demand that feminists should centre bloody men in our campaigns. Yet another wilful refusal to see that trans rights impact on women’s safety, privacy and dignity. Not worth wasting time reading it.

LangCleg · 07/11/2018 09:54

Is this the latest tack, British feminists are all evil? Seems to be a theme lately.

Terrified we might be winning and winning might be transatlantically contagious.

breastfeedingclownfish · 07/11/2018 09:53

British feminist are getting a kicking - from the US and also from the Irish TRAs calling us colonial bitches etc. Interesting times...

LangCleg · 07/11/2018 09:53

Yeah, she didn't mean men though, love.

Because Crenshaw was all about heterosexual white males getting admitted onto women's affirmative action programmes!

ARosebyAnyOtherNameChange · 07/11/2018 09:49

Well, maybe it's better if Britain is seen as a backwards lost cause, a bit like Northern Women.

It seems to me that it's those who are naturally expected to be nice who have to do all the accommodating.

I think I'll identify as Gruff with a Heart of Gold.

UpstartCrow · 07/11/2018 09:47

The article ia an opinion piece, and its a mess. It starts by criticizing British feminists for not being intersectional, then the justice system as if women are responsible for that; and fails to mention Julie Bindel or the Centre for Womens Justice.
She doesnt talk about Karen White either, but does demand that women be trans inclusive

Badstyley · 07/11/2018 09:47

Is this the latest tack, British feminists are all evil? Seems to be a theme lately.

Ereshkigal · 07/11/2018 09:41

In 1989, the black feminist legal scholar, Kimberlé Crenshaw, coined the term "intersectionality". Crenshaw wanted us to use intersectionality as a means to understand the way that oppressive structures intersect with our marginalised identities, causing poor women, women of colour, Muslim women and other marginalised women to face a double or triple bind of oppression.

Yeah, she didn't mean men though, love.