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John CARPAY: "16 Vancouver women facing human rights complaints for refusing to wax transgender woman’s male genitalia"

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R0wantrees · 06/11/2018 19:24

(extract)
"The anonymous individual "JY" has filed 16 separate complaints with the Human Rights Tribunal after being refused a Brazilian wax from businesses that only service women
“JY” publicly identifies as a woman, but still has all the male parts. In recent months, JY approached 16 Vancouver-area female estheticians who only serve women, requesting a “Brazilian” bikini wax on his groin area.

If paying homage to political correctness, one would say that these 16 estheticians will only remove pubic hair from “a woman without a penis.”

Apart from the legitimate choice of a female esthetician to serve only women, there are practical considerations that lead estheticians to provide some services and not all services.

The procedure for providing a man with a “Manzilian” is quite different, using a different kind of wax and a different technique.

Claimant could make $35,000 off the human rights complaints
In spite of the fact that JY is able to obtain a Manzilian in Vancouver, JY has filed 16 complaints against these women at the BC Human Rights Tribunal, claiming discrimination on the basis of “gender identity.”

The Justice Centre has been connected with only two of the 16 women, and has provided legal representation to both, without charge.

One of them, Shelah Poyer, is a single mom who works out of her home. JY was willing to withdraw his complaint in exchange for $2,500.

If JY is demanding similar sums from the other 14 women, he stands to receive as much as $35,000 for dropping his human rights complaints.

Lawyers afraid to represent those facing transgender identity discrimination complaints
For the women without legal representation, the temptation to settle is very strong.

Fighting JY’s discrimination complaint all the way through to a hearing would cost each esthetician $20,000 or $30,000 or more.

Further, those facing a complaint of “gender identity” discrimination may find it extremely difficult to obtain legal representation.

One of the women represented by the Justice Centre had approached, and had been turned down by 26 different lawyers and law firms. All of which cited lack of expertise in human rights proceedings, or fear of offending the transgender lobby, or both." (continues)

www.thepostmillennial.com/carpay-16-vancouver-women-facing-human-rights-complaints-for-refusing-to-wax-transgender-womans-male-genitalia/

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FekkoThePenguin · 15/11/2018 17:24

I think it would so some damage. All the hot wax, and ripping and tearing 😱

everybodypuuuuulllll · 15/11/2018 17:17

Shriek that might be what he's after. Some people pay to be hurt.

FekkoThePenguin · 15/11/2018 17:15

Canada seems, sigh, odd about addressing these things.

everybodypuuuuulllll · 15/11/2018 17:12

It's not just a scam. He's getting off on it. He deliberately targets women working on their own, out of their flats. He wants the encounter and he's punishing them if he doesn't get it.

This person has also been called out by teenage girls for joining a beauty group online, and persistently engaging them in talk about periods, particularly what he should do if he's in a changing room and a 10-12 year old asks for help with her tampon - eg should he give advice on inserting it. He asked variations of that several times. Pretending he gets periods and talking to them about it.

All this time, his profile has an image of on it that looks obviously male. But many of the girls were afraid to challenge him because he said he was trans.

In my day, if someone who looked like a man asked me and my teenage friends to talk about periods with him, I'd have told a grown up a man was hassling us. But many of these kids have been groomed into thinking they have to be nice to trans people, no matter what they look like, and so were patiently explaining to him about periods. He was inviting them to contact him by private message.

This is grooming and pedophilia, people. And it's happening in plain sight.

What are we doing about it? What are the Canadian authorities doing about it?

Oh and one more thing. In his profile pic, he's wearing google glasses (that record what you see). They're going to be fun in changing rooms.

Are all the handmaidens going to continue using changing rooms once they find themselves starring in voyeur porn? Oh sorry, I forgot. This never happens.

Shriek · 15/11/2018 16:50

Yes bloody wax those bollox, give him what he wants!!!! Not qualified, just use the wax you have and rip those buggers off.

FekkoThePenguin · 15/11/2018 16:46

If the other things I've seen on Twitter were real about this one then this is the least of our worries.

misscockerspaniel · 15/11/2018 11:39

It does sound like a scam. Mind you, it would have only taken one GC woman and a tub of hot wax to deal effectively with the scumbag in question.

FekkoThePenguin · 15/11/2018 10:48

Some people really do have brass, er, necks? No shame. No filter.

deepwatersolo · 15/11/2018 10:29

Shelah Poyer luckily did not pay. It is outrageous that the Men's Rights Trubunal Human Right's Tribunal will not tell the Justice Center how to contact the other women.

Apparently, in Sheila's case bringing up JV's online history of tampon insertion phantasies with 11 year olds was enough for JV to withdraw the complaint.

AngryAttackKittens · 15/11/2018 10:16

And I agree with you, the whole thing stinks of scam.

AngryAttackKittens · 15/11/2018 10:16
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Loouise · 15/11/2018 10:05

I believe JY's aim was NEVER to actually get a wax, just to prey on vulnerable women and make some money out of it.
Rest assured that I will do EVERYTHING possible to make sure JY gets what JY deserves. International law is a MESS to navigate but I am making it my mission to do everything in my power.

Marcipex · 15/11/2018 02:07

I'm appalled.

Shriek · 15/11/2018 01:41

MN respecting Canadian courts wishes to refer to him as JY same as other online publications.

But I do hope all these women can club together and counter sue for their suffering the intimidation and forcing to do this. They are not qualified so they cannot do it.
I can't believe this is real, but I know it is
Cognitive dissonance, much! FFS

AngryAttackKittens · 15/11/2018 00:53

YY, Dance. Presumably he's relying on his ability to scare the shit out of them in person.

Shriek · 15/11/2018 00:49

Surely the issue is she doesnt do balls? She's not qualified to do balls, it doesn't matter whether he calls them female, she's still not qualified and cannot be forced to go near his bollox.
This fucking shocking that this shite organisation has every running scared of recrimination and human rights abuses.

How much more abusive can you get than forcing women to handle your male dick and bollox

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 15/11/2018 00:45

Were I “JY”, I’d be concerned about presenting my naked genitals to a pissed-off woman with a bowl of hot wax.

PositivelyPERF · 15/11/2018 00:45

I’m sure there’s nothing in Mumsnet rules to state that we can’t name this creep in private messages.

AngryAttackKittens · 15/11/2018 00:42

Hi Louise, thank you so much for that thread, and for trying to get in touch with the woman who's being sued by this piss-taking predator. Is there any way anyone can think of to get in touch with the rest of the women's he gone after too? Because they need help, and the case against him would be much stronger with multiple women countersuing or otherwise pushing back.

FloralBunting · 15/11/2018 00:40

Yes, let's hope that when this person is allowed to be fully revealed in all their abhorrence, MN will be first in the queue to showcase this person's base and appalling behaviour towards women and girls.

everybodypuuuuulllll · 15/11/2018 00:32

Previous thread naming this individual taken down by MN. Looks like we have to call him JY to discuss him here.

This is the deleted thread message from MN:

Thanks to all who contributed, but we've had a number of reports about this thread and the legal issues that it raises

As far as we can see, other online publications (including the Spectator in the UK) are respecting the Canadian court's request to refer to the person concerned as JY. As it's not feasible to edit so much of the thread, we've taken it down.

Damn, I was meaning to save a copy of that thread, I didn't get round to it.

Loouise · 15/11/2018 00:12

I would like to emphasise that JY HAS BEEN A CREEP SINCE 2012/2013 targeting young girls and women online. I made a thread about it on Twitter if you're interested twitter.com/L_ou_ise/status/1061395533141606402
And I should be in touch with the lawyers of the woman who's talked about in this article tomorrow.

SlowlyShrinking · 08/11/2018 23:50

I keep thinking nothing else can shock me, but it just gets worse and worse

SlowlyShrinking · 08/11/2018 23:48

Just read it Verify another one who definitely doesn’t “just want to pee”