'Pregnant man' on Doctor Who

What disdain are you referring to Scott?

I'm not site whether my first crush was spock or Avon :D those were the days

I can understand the strong resistance to self ID and letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry into female spaces, but tbh I don't understand the apparent disdain for anything that seems remotely trans inspired.

Baby thing fine

I was properly rantingly outraged that the doctor seemed to be doing religion at the end. WTAF and NONONONO STOP IT

I'm with a aspie on this "I prefer my sf heroes aloof: Spock, Data, Avon from Blake’s 7, HAL from 2001: A Space Odyssey" lol

I still can't decide if Martha or Clara was the worst modern companion. I think Clara just edges it. When the companion knows more than the doctor on a regular basis, and turns out to have influenced his every decision, you know there is something very wrong.

The pregnant man makes no sense in a species where both "sexes" give birth.

Yes, they could bin Ryan and Yazz and just stick with Bradley Walsh and it would be absolutely fine.

I'm so bored of Ryan and Yazz. Yazz is completely pointless. Ryan's "did I tell you my father was crap" at every opportunity is as tedious as Bill remonding us , at every opportunity, that she was a lesbian.

3 companions are too much, especially when they are so dull. I expected to hate Bradley Walsh but he's the most bearable of the 3.

I’m expecting Chris Noth to come back as a bigger villain - possibly President - before the seasons out.

I’d love to see Jodie Whittaker take on a really great female villain though: somebody like Blake’s 7’s Servalan.

The Doctor’s only as good as the villain and they’ve not had a great one yet this season.

Shame they killed off Missy. Without Michele Gomez proving they could recast a woman in an established role we might not have got a female Doctor.

What was insulting about it. I thought it was nicely done. Its was sweet too.

@WhereYouLeftIt

Smith, Tennant and Capaldi spent loads of times looking worried - and confused.

And I love Jodie Whittaker, and although i love the idea of female heroes (more more more), I do slightly mourn the loss of a pacifist, decidedly non macho male hero.

I liked the pregnant man subplot (but was quite ready not to, it did raise my hackles at first sight).

I liked the emphasis on doulas, and on the need for same sex support "she's alright but I need men around me", and obviously the focus on Ryan's dad issues.

Plus it reversed the classic sub plot - keep all the men busy with something heart warming but ultimately unnecessary to the main storyline while the women get on with saving everyone.

Martha’s gospel preaching came about the same time Russel T Davies had decided the Doctor was Jesus.

I think that was his last series it ended with a there there Russel off you pop lovey

I've been watching the earlier series on iPlayer, I'd forgotten just how good some of it was! Last episode I watched was the Shakespeare / Martha episode; the writing then was bloody good! I think they started getting a bit too complicated during Matt Smith's tenure, and much as I love Peter Capaldi, I thought quite a few of the scripts he had were dire. So maybe if they simplify a bit, will it get better? I don't know.

Not yet convinced by JW. She just spent too much of that last episode looking worried. Tennant and Smith NEVER looked worried IIRC. Capaldi frowned a lot, but I can't say he ever looked worried.

Martha’s gospel preaching came about the same time Russel T Davies had decided the Doctor was Jesus.

I quite liked Martha.

Stopped watching it when Peter Capaldi was the doctor. Whilst I loved him the scripts were shite.

Martha was the weediest, wettest companion of the revamped Dr Who. She almost made it - the flirting with Shakespeare episode could have been the start of something decent. But no, they had to send her back to having a gas-giant sized crush on the doctor, which was just tedious.

Good Grief.

Martha did that spread the word about The Doctor it was all i believe in you bollox when D T was in the bird cage its all gone soft 😁

The very first Doctor was an antihero rather than a hero. For most of the original 20-odd he was an explorer who would end up involved in battles of good against evil rather than someone who actively sought out evil to fight.

There was none of this ‘I bring hope wherever I go’ nonsense.

In a few of the Pertwee stories where he was exiled to Earth he’d have happily buggered off and left us to the Autons if he could have got the Tardis running.

When the White Guardian sent Tom Baker’s Doctor to collect the Key to Time and reset the balance of good and evil in the universe he had to blackmail him into doing it. Even with the fate of the universe in his hands he still skived off to do some fishing.

I agree on that Fermats. One of the reasons I couldn't stand the modern Thomas the Tank Engine was that every story was basically the same moralising. As opposed to the original where They just had adventures and stuff.

Dr Who is a weekend teatime show. It's for kids/families. I've watched most of the episodes so far, think the new Dr is terrific and think they've dealt with things like gender, kindness, race, pretty well so far.
I agree with ninja I think the alien Dad story was really about developing Ryan's character.

Aspie.

DS has finally embraced Dr Who, so as well as watching the current series, we're working our way through the Peter Capaldi ones.

Now - new Dr. I like Jodie Whittaker, I like the doctor regenerating as a woman. I like the companions. But, compared to the Peter Capaldi episodes, the plots are too simplistic. (I still watch a lot of CBBC with DS, and there's CBBC programmes with more sophisticated plots). I also come out of every episode feeling like I've been bludgeoned over the head with an important point about social justice. Don't get me wrong - I agree about all the points. Kindness, fairness, anti-racism, tolerance, great messages. But bludgeoning rarely makes for good fiction in my experience.

People get ruder as they get older.

Unfortunately the Doctor (Capaldi aside) keeps getting younger.

I prefer my sf heroes aloof: Spock, Data, Avon from Blake’s 7, HAL from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

I can get all the emoting I want from Coronation Street.

@junebedford82 - did you watch this at all?

I'm sure you can catch it on iPlayer sometime and let us know what you think of the actual episode...