Can we talk about WPATH?

There was the transwoman who allegedly breastfed their baby in California. There is no benefit to the baby for that - the only person benefiting is the parent who is having their identity validated in the most narcissistic way imaginable. I suspect the uterus transplant will go the same way.

It will be framed as the ultimate triumph of identity over biological reality which is the end goal of the transactivists.

Well if you are in to wood work you could make a stand but of course I meant take a stand!

Whether you are religious or not surely no religion in the world is going to support this abhorrent science. You can only go so far with being kind and welcoming

to all in the name of 'God' but when 'progress' and the stamping of feet denigrates all women the time has come to make a stand.

What possible reason could there be for doing such a thing unless you were actually mad.

Unfortunately there are a lot of mad people out there. Amongst surgeons, there are more psychopaths than any other profession - and i consider psychopathy a form of madness. I'm sure there are some who are chomping at the bit to do the Dr Frankenstein creepy shit.

It is really important to remember that this movement is full of people who believe rules don't apply to them, who think nothing of lying and cheating, who lack empathy, care and concern for others, who are arrogant and brazen, who like to experiment on human's living bodies (including children) and are hellbent on getting their own mythology made real.

Normal rules don't apply with these people.

The idea that any doctors would even consider the possibility of trying to implant part of the opposite sex reproductive system is repellent. What possible reason could there be for doing such a thing unless you were actually mad. It's like something from a horror film.

I don’t see how this would ever get past an ethics committee.

There's a lot about medical transgenderism I think the same about. But I imagine there will be busy transactivists taking over all ethics committees as we speak. The words 'committee' and 'board' attracts them like moths to a flame and they will lie, cheat, threaten and intimidate their way into position.

In the video I posted up thread the presenter talks about how lying about something being 'peer reviewed' led to an awful lot of dodginess being accepted without question by the medical profession.

Sorry!

I don’t see how this would ever get past an ethics committee. If the ultimate goal is pregnancy that would surely entail deliberately starting pregnancies with a very high chance of negative outcomes. If not, using healthy donor organs where there is no intention of them being used. It is madness to even try.

I don’t see

*wrong

And it isn't just the mother's body; there's a feedback system between the baby and mother. There's just so much write g with this concept I can't even find a place to start.

Aren’t there a whole bunch of hormonal changes going on in pregnancy? Is it possible to gestate a healthy baby without all those?

And how would that work without a female endocrine system?

This is the issue that these people don't grasp.

The human body is not plug-n-play. This delusion is so incredibly dangerous, in so very many ways.

LikeDust's video is well worth a watch, it is from a Christian Right Wing source but it's by a guy who was very involved in early trans health. It explains how WPATH have built their reputation.

In any case, any uterus implanted will have the eggs of the donor. Any children they bear will be the genetic offspring of the donor.

Aren’t there a whole bunch of hormonal changes going on in pregnancy? Is it possible to gestate a healthy baby without all those?

And how would that work without a female endocrine system?

It’s not a ‘transplant’ if you are putting it into a body that never had one, it’s an ‘implant’.

Given enough unethical "doctors", some especially deranged transcultist will eventually get a womb harvested from some poor woman and demand to have embryos implanted in it. The inevitable gruesome miscarriage will of course be someone else's fault.

Wouldn't they need to be on anti-rejection meds if they had vanity wombs? Seems like that might not be a leap they'd be ready to take, given how egotistical it is in the first place. I'm sure they don't actually think they could gestate. Isn't the idea just to do it so women can't say we're the ones with the uteruses? I really can't visualize them actually undergoing the rigors of pregnancy.

twitter.com/4th_WaveNow/status/1059169198088146944

This is fairly terrifying. List of sponsors for previous session

gendertrender.wordpress.com/tag/big-pharma/?fbclid=IwAR1rGlt8WWZvkUzSU7Jla1WmrB6JJIX06euaMelXMB8nzY0x4qQpPscXo-M

Gender identity is paramount and sex is a social construct and largely irrelevant.

Sex is so irrelevant that we need to harvest wombs from dead women to transplant into men so they can be their authentic selves.

Turkish study 2017

'Could the female-to-male transgender population be donor candidates for uterus transplantation?'
Objective:
To evaluate the eligibility of female-to-male (FtM) transgender people as donor candidates with regard to histologic, surgical, and social aspects.

Materials and Methods:
In this prospective cohort study, 31 FtM transgender people underwent standard hysterectomy and bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy for gender reassignment upon their request. The pelvic viscera of the transgender people was intraoperatively observed and the histology of the removed uteri were evaluated for fertility capacity and procurement surgery. A questionnaire was administered to explore their attitude towards uterus donation."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5780567/

Interesting thread from WPATH on the tension between intersex and trans twitter.com/NotRightRuth/status/1059177317078126598